[henbane]

For, it must be held by faith that outside the Apostolic Roman Church, no one can be saved; that this is the only ark of salvation (Pius IX (1846-1878 A.D.)

When the voice of the Pope speaks on matters of morality, salvation and Church Doctrine the truth of those pronouncements is infallible; unarguable and absolute.

It is actually the voice of God speaking through the Pope.

When Becky asks SoothingDave "are you saying here that you have to be a member of the Catholic (captiol C) Church to gain salvation?" his answer must be a resounding "YES!"

Iowegian has presented an unimpeachable set of historical Papal pronouncements that makes this basic article of Catholic faith abundantly clear.

There is no interpretive argument possible here on such a fundamental point of Catholic Doctrine.

[SoothingDave]

When Becky asks SoothingDave "are you saying here that you have to be a member of the Catholic (captiol C) Church to gain salvation?" his answer must be a resounding "YES!"

Iowegian has presented an unimpeachable set of historical Papal pronouncements that makes this basic article of Catholic faith abundantly clear.

There is no interpretive argument possible here on such a fundamental point of Catholic Doctrine.

You don't know me very well, do you?

SD

[rdb3]

I have never read such heretical statements before in my life!

Lord, have mercy!