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To: WindMinstrel
(From BBC)

Wednesday, 16 January, 2002, 13:14 GMT

Indian civilisation '9,000 years old'

By Rajyasri Rao in Delhi

Marine scientists in India say an archaeological site off India's western coast may be up to 9,000 years old.

The revelation comes some 18 months after acoustic images from the sea-bed suggested the presence of built-up structures resembling the ancient Harappan civilisation which dates back around 4,000 years.

The Harappan civilisation is the oldest in the subcontinent.

Although Palaeolithic sites dating back around 20,000 years have been found on the coast of India's western state of Gujarat before, this is the first time there are indications of man-made structures as old as 9,500 years found deep beneath the sea.

Search impeded

Known as the Gulf of Cambay, the area has been subject to a great deal of archaeological interest due to its proximity to another ancient submerged site - Dwaraka - in the nearby Gulf of Kutch.

But investigations in the Cambay region have been made more difficult by strong tidal currents running at around 2 to 3 metres per second.

They impede any sustained underwater studies.

Marine scientists led by the Madras-based National Institute of Ocean Technology say they got around this problem by taking acoustic images off the sea-bed and using dredging equipment to extract artefacts.

A second round of investigations was conducted around three months ago.

'Glorious past'

The Indian Minister for Ocean Technology, Murli Manohar Joshi, told journalists the images indicated not only symmetrical man-made structures but also a paleo-river running for around nine kilometres on whose banks all the artefacts were discovered.

Experts say submerged pottery may offer a clue

Carbon dating carried out on one of these artefacts - a block of wood bearing the signs of deep fissures - dated it to around 7,595 BC.

Mr Joshi says his ministry plans to set up a multi-disciplinary group to look into what this discovery really means and what relation it may have to other ancient sites in the area.

Critics say the minister, who has been in the eye of a storm recently for attempts to Hinduise school history-text books, may well be presenting these archaeological discoveries as proof of India's glorious and ancient past.

But others say only further scientific studies can tell whether such a claim can be made at all.

5 posted on 01/16/2002 5:37:54 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
attempts to Hinduise school history-text books

This is a public relations problem. Were the inhabitants of this palatial country estate actually Hindu, or were they related at all to the present inhabitants of India? There appear to be swamped and inundated stone city ruins all around the planet, both New World, and Old World. These ruins appear to predate even the Indo-European roots of our modern languages. Any inscriptions?

14 posted on 01/16/2002 8:54:29 AM PST by RightWhale
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Although Palaeolithic sites dating back around 20,000 years have been found on the coast of India's western state of Gujarat before

Do you have more information or links to the 20,000-year-old sites? thanks.

26 posted on 01/16/2002 11:37:57 AM PST by PoisedWoman
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To: blam
The Harappan people have always been one of the traditional barbarian hordes in Sid Meier's 'Civilization' games.

I hate the Harappans.

85 posted on 06/15/2007 4:58:57 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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It is obvious that the Tigris and Euphrates Company outsourced the civilization project to India. This was forgotten because the Customer Service Department in India was almost completely unintelligible,


110 posted on 11/20/2010 9:47:27 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama. He's Ray Nagin in National Office)
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