[Byron_the_Aussie]

I don't 'defend the Sauds', hombre. This thread isn't the place for it, but I'll try to explain; my view is that no country poses any threat to the United States, economically, military, or morally- unless you change from within. Then, anything could happen. Anyone who knows my four years of posting history here will know that there's no greater and truer admirer of the United States on the Net. But I am not going to sit silent when I read posts about nuking Mecca, murdering POWs, or cheering about the Patriot Act or when some American gets thrown off a domestic flight. I try to take into consideration the outrage and fear, and acknowledge you guys were hit, not us, but it seems to me that 911 means our side should rediscover our principles, not throw them out the window.

[weikel]

There are a few non fundi Saudis that why I support invasion and not nuking we will be able to spare the "ten innocent men" so to speak. I do not think we can suffer the continued existence of the Wahabbi state or the Wahabbi sect now that we know the full extent of the evil it has caused and will continue to cause. I don't think Mugabe has much of a military a good revolt if enough of the populace is armed should be able to take him down. Im all for supplying arms to his opponents.