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I found this quite illuminating.

libertarian image libertarian reality
Image: non-coercion, no initiation of force Reality: libertarians legitimise economic injustice, by refusing to define it as coercion or initiated force
Image: moral autonomy of the individual Reality: libertarians demand that the individual accept the outcome of market forces
Image: political freedom Reality: some form of libertarian government, imposing libertarian policies on non-libertarians
Image: libertarians condemn existing states as oppressive Reality: libertarians use the political process in existing states to implement their policies
Image: benefits of libertarianism Reality: libertarians claim the right to decide for others, what constitutes a 'benefit'

14 posted on 02/01/2002 10:33:27 AM PST by Exnihilo
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To: Exnihilo
"economic injustice"

You typed in the wrong URL. Your DUmpster home is over here.

20 posted on 02/01/2002 10:40:27 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Exnihilo
yeah, I found it illuminating that you chose a socialist's arguements against libertarianism. That's much like selecting a harlot's assault on chastity.
24 posted on 02/01/2002 10:42:21 AM PST by WindMinstrel
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To: Exnihilo
Reality: libertarians legitimise economic injustice, by refusing to define it as coercion or initiated force

Economic injustice? What, the rain in NYC keep you from marching with your communist, anti-capitalist breatheren, so all you have to do all day is bash Libertarians? And bashing us with this collectivist crap? Shouldn't you be trolling DU?
28 posted on 02/01/2002 10:44:07 AM PST by FreedomIsSimple
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To: Exnihilo, Doctor Doom
I found this quite illuminating.
libertarian image/libertarian reality
Image: non-coercion, no initiation of force
Reality: libertarians legitimise economic injustice, by refusing to define it as coercion or initiated force

Why one earth would anyone care that you found a communistic critique of Libertarianism to be "illuminating"?
The Free Market is not "economic injustice", it is the only possible Economic System which conforms to the Law of God.

Frankly, you Communists scare me. You have a nasty record of murdering Christians.
God willing, America will move in a Libertarian direction, and not go down the Christian-killing path of Communism that you find so "illuminating".

45 posted on 02/01/2002 10:52:23 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: Exnihilo
Yes. Libtertarians are much like the Marxist totalitarians in that they delegate the descision of what is and is not force, and what is and is not libertarian to a small elite class, namely themselves.

A libertarian government could never work because the ellite few have a narrow and rigid ideal of what libertarianism is, and in reality, in a country of 275 million, with 50 governorships, 535 Congressmen, 9 Supreme Court Justices, and countless local governments, it is likely that some will choose to stray from the libertarian ideal, and in a libertarian world, that would not be allowed to happen in the first place.
379 posted on 02/02/2002 10:42:06 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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