[Age of Reason]

at some level, both Creationists and Evolutionists wander back to singularities and have to cope with the issue of spontaneous cause.

Nope. Not needed.

Just because cause and effect happens in our experience is no reason to suppose there has to be an ultimate cause outside of our experience.

[Sabertooth]

Just because cause and effect happens in our experience is no reason to suppose there has to be an ultimate cause outside of our experience.

Even if I accept this, there's also no reason to suppose otherwise.

Do you agree?