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To: Nachum
So much for personal responsibility. What the hell is the matter with you? This forum is dedicated to the principles of our Founders. Many brave men have fought and died for the liberty which you now so casually disregard. Not just George Washington, but plain folks, too, gave their lives in battle. John and Abagail Adams spent years apart---years!--so that "future generations" (that's us) could enjoy the "blessings of liberty." I am ashamed of you. Your attitude towards your civic duty as a republican citizen sickens me.
85 posted on 02/06/2002 6:12:21 PM PST by Huck
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To: Huck

Many brave men have fought and died for the liberty which you now so casually disregard. Not just George Washington, but plain folks, too, gave their lives in battle. John and Abagail Adams spent years apart---years!--so that "future generations" (that's us) could enjoy the "blessings of liberty." I am ashamed of you. Your attitude towards your civic duty as a republican citizen sickens me.

No doubt you agree that every juror should be informed that they are to judge both the facts and the law as it is being applied.

"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him."
--Thomas Jefferson to Francis Gilmer, 1816. ME 15:24

How and why individual rights prevail over the illusion of group rights.

The smallest minority is the minority of one -- the individual. When the individual is protected all larger-than-one minorities as well as the largest majority are protected. The largest majority is the human species.

Whenever possible, absolutes are preferred to relatives. Absolutes are constant across all cultures and times whereas relatives change from culture to culture and generation to generation or century to century.

Absolute: The highest moral, human and individual right is the right to self-defense against the initiation of force, fraud and coercion. The proof is that without one's own life a person has nothing, nada, zero, zip.

Absolute: Every instance that force, fraud or coercion is initiated against a person that person experiences a loss of value to his or her life. Only the victim knows how much his or her life was, is and will be diminished by the person that wielded initiation of force, fraud or coercion against him or her.

When plaintiff decides that arbitration will not meet plaintiff's needs, trial by jury is the best recourse that a plaintiff has for gaining restitution for plaintiff's life being diminished by the initiation of force, fraud or coercion.

The plaintiff must convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that he or she has been the victim of initiation of force, fraud or coercion by the defendant. Also, plaintiff must express the loss of value plaintiff suffered and express what plaintiff seeks in terms of restitution or compensation for plaintiff's loss of value.

Here's a short, partial list that a plaintiff might bring charges against a person whom the plaintiff claims victimized him or her. All cases can be settled via trial by jury.

Plaintiff claims defendant initiated force, fraud or coercion against plaintiff by:

Defendant killed person that is close relative or close friend to plaintiff. This is a logical choice of who would be first in line to become plaintiff. E.g., spouse, child, sibling, etc.
Defendant assaulted victim
Defendant stole from victim
Defendant blackmailed victim
Defendant ingested drugs
Defendant sold drugs to third party consenting adult
Defendant viewed pornographic material
Defendant sold pornographic material to third party consenting adult
Defendant sold sexual favors to third party consenting adult
Defendant engaged in gambling with third party consenting adult

The burden is on the plaintiff to prove to a jury beyond reasonable doubt that he or she has been the victim of initiation of force, fraud or coercion and to what extent the plaintiff has been damaged by the defendant.

The bottom line is: if the jury agrees with you/plaintiff you're right and win the case. If the jury disagree with you/plaintiff you're wrong and lose the case.


209 posted on 02/06/2002 8:45:27 PM PST by Zon
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