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Missing [San diego] girl's neighbor went to desert, beach and back
San Diego Union-Tribune ^
| 9 February 2002
| Kelly Thornton Elizabeth Fitzsimons and Joe Hughes
Posted on 02/09/2002 6:53:27 AM PST by crypt2k
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To: MeeknMing
Well, I finally heard bits of the news regarding this this morning. Let me reword that...I finally heard the MOTHER this morning. She's either one tough cookie, or very guilty, IMHO. Not that it's ever humble....but I gotta tell you, I'd be a bumbling idiot by now if one of my kids was missing. Hysterical is more like it.
To: gorio
and the second fire is very close to LA (near Anaheim). Huh? It's near ANAHEIM??????? Are you absolutely sure????
To: Brad's Gramma
According the CNN
here's the link The most recent fires were near: 1. "The homes and buildings were destroyed in and around Fallbrook, about 60 miles north of San Diego...." 2. "Another fire has burned 2,400 acres to the northwest, on the eastern edge of Anaheim...."
Here's a map...
Gorio
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posted on
02/11/2002 6:03:08 PM PST
by
gorio
To: gorio
From what we heard over the weekend, it was off the 91 freeway, east of Anaheim. There were no homes threatened, and the smoke seems to be not as dense as Saturday night.
To: Brad's Gramma
Okay, but let's not forget the reason for posting the map. Alledgedly the next door neighbor travel a wide path thru the So. Cal. area and quite possibly was up to no good. Someone else mentioned the possibilities of purposely set fires to cover something up...For the recorde the fires came from a tin-foiler...
Gorio
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posted on
02/11/2002 7:07:14 PM PST
by
gorio
To: gorio
That's quite a bit of traveling over a 2 day camping expedition, huh? Hmmm
To: gorio
Okay, but let's not forget the reason for posting the map. Alledgedly the next door neighbor travel a wide path thru the So. Cal. area and quite possibly was up to no good. Someone else mentioned the possibilities of purposely set fires to cover something up...For the recorde the fires came from a tin-foiler... Okay... I said its a long shot (comparing the location of the fires to the route of the neighbor's "day-trip")... and I issued a tinfoil hat alert for that ... but I don't think it would be too far-fetched for someone to set a fire to cover up a body or evidence of foul play. I'm not familiar with the backhills/desert area out there and only thought there could be a link. Now, thanks to you, I see the two areas are miles apart. And so I withdraw my theory. Thanks for the info, and BTW, take back the tinfoiler remark, please.
To: fivecatsandadog
I hereby wish to withdraw the tin foil remark. Any news in this case?
Gorio
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02/12/2002 4:01:37 AM PST
by
gorio
To: gorio
To: terilyn
"Pierce said he was shocked when Brenda van Dam showed him Danielle's journal. " 'Daddy, please forgive me,' " Pierce said one entry read. " 'Daddy please love me. Danielle.'" If this is true, there's a lot more going on in that house than these parents are saying. This is a classic line from a child that's being sexually abused.
"Daddy, please forgive me"...could be saying: "I"m sorry for not giving you what you want." And..."Daddy, please love me." could be saying:"Please don't reject me because I'm not giving you what you want."
Yes, terilyn...I would conclude by those journal entries that there's more to this story than what's been told. Those are most unusual statements coming from a 7 y.o. Unless, of course, her dad could have punished her for something having nothing at all to do with sexual abuse. But I'd be real, REAL suspicious if I were the police...and her mother!
To: Jaded
Actually, authorities found the baby's remains with marks consistent to being mauled my an animal, near where another person was attacked. True crime website has the details, sorry don't know the url.That's a fascinating site. Unfortunately, the writing for many of the cases is uneven. Some great cases only get a few pages while real snoozers are the length of novellas. If the writings were consistently good, it might not matter to me as much. The whole "dingoes ate my baby" case nearly put me to sleep.
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02/13/2002 10:52:55 PM PST
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BradyLS
To: homeschool mama
While we don't know that to be fact (sexual abuse by the father) ...at this point anyway...you have to conclude that that's a telling diary entry. Gives you cause to wonder *why* a child would have to beg for love. Tragic.She's seven? And has a diary? That struck me as weird early on. Then again, I'm single with no kids. WhatdoIknow?
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02/13/2002 11:37:20 PM PST
by
BradyLS
To: Brad's Gramma
By the way, I think you're losing a whole lot of credibility by picking on one poster. But hey, go for it...At least it's fair. With four on one, now, your cred is certainly used up. Diefree disagrees with homeschool mamma. Maybe homeschool should grow up and agree to disagree.
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posted on
02/14/2002 12:00:15 AM PST
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BradyLS
To: gorio
Not to throw a wrench in the works, but.....Last saturday there was a fire in Sorrento Valley at the 5-805 merge, a fairly small but hot quick fire. Dad works for Qualcomm, the fire was near a few Qualcomm facilities.
Quickly molding tinfoil as we speak.
To: BradyLS;Brad's Gramma
*** Diefree disagrees with homeschool mamma. Maybe homeschool should grow up and agree to disagree.***
Please see post #248. Then sit down and eat your peas. They're getting cold.
To: homeschool mama
bttt....no new developements? must be the quiet before the storm... gorio
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posted on
02/18/2002 5:10:31 PM PST
by
gorio
To: gorio
bump btt
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posted on
02/27/2002 4:19:43 PM PST
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gorio
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