A Little Secret About the Nazis (They were left-wing socialists like the modern left of today)

russp ^ | 1/2002 | Richard Poe

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My family was born in Germany so I've known for a long time that NAZI's were socialists beyond the name. Are you suggesting the Chinese government is not socialist? Aren't the workers running the government there to promote the greatest good?

/sarcasm

[snopercod]

Very good article. It should be required reading in all high school history classes, not to mention colleges.

Better yet, let the the little kiddies experience first hand just how "different" they are than the "good Germans".

The Wave, a real-life experiment in Nationalizing Socialism, conducted by Ron Jones, conducted at Palo Alto High School in 1967.

The Wave is based on the real experience of a high school class in Palo Alto, CA (USA), in April 1967. History teacher Ron Jones came up with a seemingly innocent classroom experiment to explain his students why in the 1930's and 40's many (young) Germans were so under the spell of Adolf Hitler that they allowed or even helped the systematic murdering of millions of innocent Jews.

The experiment was successful beyond expectation: after only a few weeks, a movement called 'The Wave' had been founded, whose members at first sought for community-feeling and a healthy working-discipline, but soon after started to see the movement and it's mysterious leader as purposes in themselves. Those opposing the movement became enemies, life-long friends were seperated from each other. Worse still, criticism was met with aggression and intimidation.

For some time, it seemed that Jones had lost control of his experiment, and was caught in it's momentum himself. Finally, he ended the nightmare by confronting the students with their leader, the man they had been following with such vigour. Many cried and all were shocked when they learned that it was Hitler, or Mussolini, or any other dictator responsible for many deaths....

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Bump.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

Ping for the sea of poorly educated and incompetent researchers in the journalistic profession.

[connectthedots]

At the extreme left and right, politics are the same: control, control, control. Only their methods vary.

Pat Buchanan's name come to mind?

All one need do to confirm this story is to read Fredric Hayek's The Road to Serfdom.

[PuNcH]

So, if Nazism is leftist, and Facism is a communist invention, what form of government lies to the extreme right?

Anarchy, no govt. ;P

[PuNcH]

Give me a quote, please.

I'm not going to give you a quote and I'm not trying to give direct support the idea that Marx wanted jews exterminated, but the will to take away the rights of those to believe in there own ideology religious or othewise is a disregard for their lives. Maybe Marx didnt realize what the full outcome of that could be.

[gcruse]

Anarchy, no govt. ;P

It would be nice if the further to the
right you go, the smaller government got, alright.
And conservatives pay lip service to that idea,
but abuse it as baldly badly as democrats in practice. :)

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[Black Powder]

Not with the same degree of misunderstanding that you and your friends have applied to it, no.

I had my doubts that you truly are an academic, but you've pretty much cleared that up.

[wingnuts'nbolts]

The few times I have advanced this idea of the Nazi's being the German party of the leftist socialists here in FR I have been shouted down and shown the errors of my thinking.
This Article makes my heart sing.

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Welcome to freerepublic

[gitmo]

The New Underground: How Conservatives Conquered the Internet.

Sounds like a fascinating book. How long does it take to write something like that?

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You will have to ask Poe. Good question.

[scouse]

I have been offered a book deal by a major publisher,

Congratulations!

[svasticNik]

I agree with your views

[finnman69]

bump

So many lefties are using the Nazi namecalling these days it deserves a reposting of this article.

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[CGVet58]

many thanks to both for your comments, which are both correct and clearly aware of the enormous ignorance we have about the general history of this issue. By way of note, I was once one of those who had been brainwashed into accepting that fascism was a cancer of the extreme right; it wasn't until about 2 years ago that I was able to liberate myself of this lie.

Nevertheless, far too many people still accept the lie that fascism and nazism are children of the right. For my part, I can proudly recount here that since my liberation - literally Veritas vos Liberabit - I do not hesitate to counterattack any leftist who calls the right - or me... - a fascist.

Almost all their reactions - being comfortably accustomed as they are to seeing a conservative immediately slip into defensive mode when they launch this standard attack - are slack-jawed when I simply point out to them, "no, you're the fascist; fascism and the nazis... ie, national socialists are from your side of the ideological divide". I tell them to read their history (they're not used to being told what to do by a rightie, either... tough cookies, eh?) and come back to me when they've brushed up on the facts. They never do.

Here's to the Truth, Gentlemen, and to more souls discovering and firmly announcing it.

CGVet58