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To: Dawgsquat
The civil war destroyed the 10th amendment alright, and it also destroyed the true intent of this constitutional republic as well. Lincoln as far as I have ascertained was a traitor to that document. Whereas the Confederacy had the right to do what they did.

Sad, sad times those were, saw the destruction of the south, and of the constitution as our founding fathers wrote it.
10 posted on 02/20/2002 9:09:56 AM PST by Aric2000
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To: Aric2000
Yes, very sad times. The violations of the Tenth began several years before the war with the Missouri Compromise and the Compromise of 1850. Both were mis-guided attempts by the Feds to solve a problem that, according to the Constitution, they had no jurisdiction over. The South could see the handwriting on the wall.
11 posted on 02/20/2002 9:20:23 AM PST by Dawgsquat
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To: Aric2000
Frankly, this address is one of the most convoluted statements I've ever read. I do not deny that the southern states had and should have had the right to determine their own futures outside the Union, but if this represents the way Jefferson Davis wrote and spoke, then even by the flowery standards of 19th century oratory, he was an incredible windbag.

Furthermore, the central issue of the dispute between the northern and southern states was not preservation of slavery in the south. Only a minority of radicals in the north were actually pushing for complete abolition. Instead, the issue was whether slavery would be literally forced on the new territories and soon-to-be states in the west. The majority of people in those areas did not want slavery, and industry and labor in the north saw slavery as unfair and immoral competition. Equal accession of slave and free states was forced on the expanding United States in order maintain an even division of slave vs. free state representation in the Senate, and thereby maintain a level of power which their small population would otherwise not support, until Kansas and Nebraska upset that balance.

Secession, war, and eventual defeat stemmed from the desire of the slave holders to expand and spread their "peculiar institution". Appeals to the higher principles of "States' Rights" and "Freedom" were a thin cover for the fact that once the south could no longer get its way on the forcible extension of slavery, they decided to quit the Union altogether.

Whether they had the right to do so is a separate question. But I refuse attribute a high moral purpose to people who felt it was not only correct to hold humans as chattle but desirable to forcibly spread that practice to places where it was not wanted.

PS: The first shots of that war were fired by the south. Try shooting some artillery at Fort Bragg or Fort Campbell today and see how the Federal government reacts.

15 posted on 02/20/2002 11:35:09 AM PST by katana
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