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AP - San Diego Union tribune ^ | February 21, 2002 | AP

Posted on 02/21/2002 5:40:02 PM PST by crypt2k

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To: ken21
i don't know...i cross that border at least once a month

There is no scrutiny going on who crosses into Mexico. Also people are transporting kids over the border into the US to attend schools or use the hospitals all the time. Half the kids in the border schools are from Mexico, they obviously checking each carful of kids because they're trying to make sure no one waits more than 10-15 minutes in those lines at that bridges.

41 posted on 02/21/2002 10:28:11 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
They obviously "aren't" checking. We have vanfuls of kids coming over and not one child is checked ---it would be very easy to cross the border in either direction with kids who aren't yours.
42 posted on 02/21/2002 10:31:52 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Our borders leak like the SDPD to Rick Roberts!
43 posted on 02/21/2002 10:35:14 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Re Post 31: Then why would they want to belong to such a conservative website? Are they really stupid enough to think they can change a true freepers mind? Poor, pathetic, misguided people. I wonder if this website has ever helped change some of their minds.
44 posted on 02/21/2002 10:42:23 PM PST by lara
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To: JMJ333
I wonder what is wrong with men and women that they need artificial stimulation??? I guess they havn't heard that CHRISTIANS have the best sex lives in the USA! :0)
45 posted on 02/21/2002 11:02:44 PM PST by brat
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To: FresnoDA
Paul Whitmore, a child and family counselor from Grantville, pleaded not guilty yesterday to 23 child molestation and child pornography charges involving two girls ages 10 and 13.

FresnoDA, as a guy who grew up in what the local newspaper calls "Grantville," that post brought back memories of the ever-expanding Grantville, which at the last time I checked, covered half of the City of San Diego, if you believe the local paper. That's one reason I don't read the San Diego Union-Buffoon...

46 posted on 02/22/2002 4:18:42 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: lara
"Poor, pathetic, misguided people."

I agree with you, but bear in mind that to them, decency is somehow "prudish" or "narrow-minded" or worse. On these Danielle threads, I've seen people lash out at those who criticize the hedonistic lifestyle of the parents, or at those who even hint that the parents' behavior might have played a part in the tragedy. To some people, good is evil and evil is good, and forget about common sense. It's been an education, that's for sure.

47 posted on 02/22/2002 4:41:19 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: lara
Then why would they want to belong to such a conservative website? Are they really stupid enough to think they can change a true freepers mind? Poor, pathetic, misguided people. I wonder if this website has ever helped change some of their minds.

I'd say it has, as I have received freep-mail from lurkers giving me encouragement. Everyone who argued with me on that thread was libertarian. It is moral laissaz faire relativism--"anything goes if it pleases me" syndrome. They live in subjective utopia. This is what decent Americans are up against--it is what's being taught to our kids via the pop culture and the liberals in public schools.

48 posted on 02/22/2002 4:47:43 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: golitely
I am thoroughly convinced that whoever took Danielle knew her and the layout of the house. If people can be Swingers, which is vile and disgusting, who knows what other sickening and dark things that they are involved in. Swinging and child sex/porn.... I don't see that they are not closely related. Once you open the door on evil it's open. It IS the lifestyle of the van Dams that is directly involved in this tragedy.

It's why I fight against drugs. People say pot is no big deal, kids sure think it's nothing, but it opens the door to other harder drugs. It's all related.

49 posted on 02/22/2002 7:58:08 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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"I am thoroughly convinced that whoever took Danielle knew her and the layout of the house."

This is why I was so dismayed to learn that they are just now getting around to checking the van Dam home for clues! I can't believe that they wouldn't at least consider the possibility that the abductor was either someone they knew or--Heaven forbid--the parents themselves. It seems they've been too busy consoling the "grieving" media stars parents to consider all the possibilities. They say they've "completely cleared" the guests that night--how so? Why so? Because everyone alibied for everyone? What kind of "evidence" is that?

Pardon my rant, but this morning my blood is boiling as I read more and more about the SDPD incompetence in this. Or maybe they have a few of those "swinger" on the force, and they have a reason to look the other way. Can't have "swingers" looking bad, now, can they? That's what FR's swingers are doing.

50 posted on 02/22/2002 8:08:37 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
" It seems they've been too busy consoling the "grieving" media stars parents..."

Think "Boulder." Think "Ramsey." Think "cold case."

51 posted on 02/22/2002 8:45:59 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: FresnoDA
Parents MUST know the families of their children's friends.

This is undoubtedly an important point, however in our society, how well do we get to know anyone outside our immediate circle of friends? People who look like they are leading moral, respectable lives on the surface are frequently the ones that have the most vile secrets.

52 posted on 02/22/2002 10:33:24 AM PST by scholar
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To: scholar
Sorry I haven't been following this story, can someone provide the link to the article where we learned about the parents perverted lifestyle. Thanx.
53 posted on 02/22/2002 5:33:40 PM PST by Jack Black
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