Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams: Grace Under Fire

Capitalism Magazine ^ | Feb 23, 2002 | Larry Elder

[The Raven]

You won't learn this in the schools, either.

[Marauder]

This man speaks my mind. The welfare culture doesn't want to hear this, because they'd rather live on the dole than earn their keep.

And I don't think color is all that involved. It's visible, to be sure; but those that advocate the unilateral transfer of wealth from those that earn it to those that don't aren't all black. Rather, they are liberals - the "leaders" pursuing their socialist agenda, and those followers who - whether emotionally blind or through sheer stupidity - don't recognize the damage they're doing.

[The Real Eddie01]

The Liberal Plantation

Eddie01

[willyone]

Watching a AMC special on Hatie McDaniels. The NAACP really tried to ruin her when she tried to play more white type roles and when she fought them the liberals in Hollywood kept her from getting work. Typical liberal double speak. The real reason why liberals hate vouchers is that black kids will then be able to go to school with the liberals kids. Can't have that now can we?

[VOA]

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[Graewoulf]

It is interesting to note that whenever Intellectuals that are Black have the courage to publically discuss their Conservative thoughts, that it is the Black public figures who do their best to cast dispersions on those Conservative thinkers.

Dr. Sowell and Dr. Williams should be commended by other Black Intellectuals for their courage.

What is so terrible about diversity of thought among Blacks?

Must all Blacks think and speak the same as "The Man in the Big House" on the NAACP Plantation? And here I've been led to believe that slavery was abolished with our Civil War!

Guess it takes a little longer to end thought-slavery.

[VOA]

The real reason why liberals hate vouchers is that black kids will then be able to go
to school with the liberals kids. Can't have that now can we?

Reminds me of an explanation of why Senator Al Gore Sr. voted for voting rights,
but voted AGAINST the civil rights bill in the 1960s.
Gore Sr. wanted black people to vote for him.
But he didn't want to sit next to them at the lunch counter.
Typical Democratic-Socialist B.S.

[Nat Turner]

another well kept secret.... another reason to end the government education monopoly

But you know the three biggest reforms we need: EDUCATION, IMMIGRATION,and TAXATION will never happen because the left controls the "COMMANDING HEIGHTS" of the culture: Media and Academia...

we better wake before Pat Buchanan is proven accurate

[dorothy]

THE POVERTY PIMPS' POEM

Let us celebrate the poor,
Let us hawk them door to door.
There's a market for their pain,
Votes and glory and money to gain.
Let us celebrate the poor.
Their ills, their sins, their faulty diction
Flavor our songs and spice our fiction.
Their hopes and struggles and agonies
Get us grants and consulting fees.
Celebrate thugs and clowns,
Give their ignorance all renown.
Celebrate what holds them down,
In our academic gowns.
Let us celebrate the poor.

Thomas Sowell

[The Raven]

Check this out

[tpaine]

Good post. -- This subject would make a great show for Alan Keyes.

[Carry_Okie]

It isn't hard to recall that the Southern Democrats were the Party of slavery. It was LBJ who saw that indentured constituency, stretching into the future as far as the eye could see.

[The Real Eddie01]

The real reason why liberals hate vouchers is that black kids will then be able to go to school with the liberals kids.

IMHO

Actually the black community rejects vouchers based on the idea that anything that is not perceived as strengthening the 'community' is seen as weakening it.

Vouchers would take black children out of the black community and integrate them into successful mainstream America. They see there strength in numbers, their communal bond to each other, brothers and sisters all.

If one was to go off and find success on their own, well... that just one less voice in the chorus, one less vote at the ballot box. They enslave themselves to a degree with this obsolete survival skill.

This same community/cultural defence mechanism is what drives the black community to demagog and label all successful blacks as "Uncle Tom's". Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Jesse Lee Peterson, the list is endless. Liberals on the otherhand, whether Charlatan or Dupe just go along with whatever the black community espouses right or wrong to get votes or suppress some coerced guilt complex respectively.

All in all, Liberals could care less about improving anything.

Eddie01

[Freedom'sWorthIt]

"This subject would make a great show for Alan Keyes.Z"

Exactly my thoughts. What would it take to get Alan Keyes to have on his program Dr. Sowell, Dr. Williams and himself just discussing these issues for the entire hour? I don't know that MSNBC is brave enough to allow that.

[Faraday]

It's interesting that the "racist" conservatives have minority intellectuals far beyond their population percentage. Thomas Sowell may be the sharpest mind in the nation. We, conservatives, however, have a major disadvantage. We have to compete on the basis of ideas, not the "booty" from taxpayers largesse.

[Ohioan]

The verdict on LBJ's Great Society was in generations before he launched it. Political subsidization of failure has always meant more failure, never success. The real tragedy of Negro America--and the real beef that they have with White politicians--is that under the wise leadership of men like Booker T. Washington and George Washington Carver, at the beginning of the Twentieth Century, they were beginning to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Then came the White Leftists, who founded the NAACP, and who began in time to promote the subsidies for failure, and the family destroying ADC, in the 1930s, followed by the "Civil Rights" movement and legislation from the 1940s. It was this steady diet of corrupting influence, that broke the back of the forward progress. While many individuals have succeeded, over half of the race today are far worse off, from the standpoint of social infrastructure essential to real progress, than they were a century ago.

It is both sad and outrageous. But when you mention Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, you are discussing men who have contributed far more to American Caucasions--who respect them tremendously--than to American Negroes; not because they wanted to slight their own race, not in the least. But because most of their race was being regimented into moronic self-destruction by a systematic, and thorough, Leftwing brainwashing.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[Faraday]

Actually the black community rejects vouchers based on the idea that anything that is not perceived as strengthening the 'community' is seen as weakening it.

Actually, black Americans overwhelmingly support vouchers. This can be seen in Milwaukee, Cleveland, and in Washington, D.C. It is the so-called "black leadership" that is opposed to vouchers, because they kowtow to the teachers' unions and Democrat big city political machines.

[The Raven]

Actually the black community rejects vouchers

I don't believe it.....maybe the leaders.....The users of vouchers love them.

Polls in communities where they've been tried love them.

[Matchett-PI]

".... they are liberals - the "leaders" pursuing their socialist agenda, and those followers who - whether emotionally blind or through sheer stupidity - don't recognize the damage they're doing."

You have just described the base mentalities that (as I have said many times here on FR), make up the base of the DemocRAT party:

[1] Cynical opportunists (like Marx)
[2] Useful idiots (those Marx said he needed in order for his agenda (Socialism-to-Communism) to succeed.

[Matchett-PI]

"...most of their race was being regimented into moronic self-destruction by a systematic, and thorough, Leftwing brainwashing."

As is always the case with cynical opportunists and what Marx called, his "useful idiots". (See #19)

If useful idiots (or Barnum's "suckers") recognized themselves, they would no longer be "useful".

There's no danger of that happening because even though their *true friends* (whom they never recognize until it's too late), try so hard to warn them about how and why they're being used, they always refuse to believe it.