Excellent Article On The Future of North America

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[Azura2]

This is a really great article on the future of "Canada". The last small paragraph on this page sums up what conservatives -- me included -- feel about Canada. It's worth the read.

(This excludes Quebec -- this is only about English Canada)

"It’s time for the unrestrained forces of capitalism to prevail, so that we can finally abandon our pathetic fantasy of having a unique culture, let alone a unique anything. It’s time to become who we always were: Americans. Long live globalization."

An EKOS opinion poll released last June revealed that 45% of Canadians "think it highly likely Canada will become part of a North American Union within 10 years." Yet there is practically no agitation for this union. Not from politicians, not from the media, not from the people. Only 15% said they "wanted to see Canada become more like the U.S.," while 42% said they "wanted Canada to be less like the U.S."

"Indifferent to our past and ambivalent about our future the Canadian Right must ask itself one question: is our country worth saving?"

http://207.216.246.197/archive/report/20020304/p10i020304f.html .

[Azura2]

ping

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I don't want Canada to go out of business. The US and Canada are already linked by trade, language, etc. That's plenty.

[Azura2]

Alberta has the capacity for more oil then is produced in the entire US -- we use only 3% of our fresh water supplies. We have an unending amount of lumber and so on. It would benifit both sides -- only and I repeat only if Quebec the provinces east of Quebec are excluded.

[RightWhale]

if Quebec the provinces east of Quebec are excluded

Everything is on the table. Pobably Quebec and First Nations will be out, but the Maritimes will be in.

[Canadian Outrage]

I agree with you - let Quebec go it ALONE. For once these idiots should have to survive on their own wherewithall instead of on the backs of all the rest of us. They appreciate nothing anyway.

[Azura2]

I don't think so. The maritimes are in Quebec's sphere of influence. From that article:

The Canadian Right's shift to pro-Americanism was coincident, he says, with the rise of the American New Right and the 1964 presidential campaign of Barry Goldwater.

The National Post, Canada's leading right-wing newspaper, sides with the Alliance. A reliable source claims that a famous right-wing pundit, a star of the National Post, was heard to say, "The Post has a problem. It was started to save Canada, but Canada isn't worth saving."

[Random Access]

It’s time to become who we always were: Americans.

Texans with table manners?

[RightWhale]

Back in the 60s, the Maritimes by themselves were not far from merging with New England in some kind of economic zone. Ontario would not join with the US, of course, unless most of Canada were about to do the same. The Western Pronvinces are sometimes closer, sometimes further from merging with the US. Quebec will go it alone no matter what. I don't see a union within 10 years due to insufficient lack of interest from either Canadian or US parties. If it does happen, those who live along the southern border of Canada will probably move farther south, there being little reason to stay up north. The ones remaining in the north would mainly be those engaged in mining, timber, farming.

[Azura2]

This has been ignored in the US (I religiously follow US news & politics) but the US and Canada are almost finished negotiating a Joint Defence Command Structure. OK it's not even it's basically all Canadian forces under the command of the American Generals and so on. This will happen within months. The border is going to go in a year or so, our dollar goes in 3 to 4 years once it is rendered useless. We have no border dollar or defence.....we are not soverign anymore.

This Canadian says: Long live manifest destiny.

[Azura2]

I think you fail to realize that in 10 years 15 max their will not BE a Canada. Their will be the 51st (British Columbia) 52nd (Alberta) 53rd (Manitoba) 54th (Saskatchewan) and the biggie 55th (Ontario) states with the Northern land as 'territories'.

I see no reason to fight it as I loathe Post-Trudeau Canada.

[Revolutionary]

There is a much better than even chance that the western provinces will become part of America in the next 25-35 years. A government spending crisis will emerge, socialized medicine will be in big trouble, Canadians will be moving to the U.S. and the Canadian government will deliver some final straw that ensures the western provinces' departure. Most people don't know that British Columbia almost joined the U.S. The promise of a railroad from Eastern Canada to Vancouver tipped the scales. The western provinces are not exactly thrilled with what they see as the Eastern government.

This was one of my wild card scenarios for future planning. There is even a larger possibility of a military merger of some kind. Money and people will be in short supply for the Canadian military as their budget squeeze gets tighter and their equipment gets older.

[Centurion2000]

This could be interesting .... I'd be happy to move to the Great White North around the border of British Columbia and Yukon .... but I'm taking my guns with me :).

[Azura2]

LOL I hear you man. You should go to parts of Alberta -- the best places for hunting in my opinion in the world. It's beautiful and a hunters dream.

[watcher1]

That would change if Mr. Day became Prime Minister

Look, I like and respect Mr. Day.

The sad truth for you people is that Stockwell ( or any real conservative ) is Unelectable in socialist canada.

One day you will realize that.

[Azura2]

Ontario elected Mike Harris to back-to-back majority governments. No one can tell me he is not a real conservative.

[rmlew]

I'm not sure I want 10 million more Socialists.
What about a population transfer. Think of it as a peaceful analogue to the relocations during and following the American Revolution where American Tories went north and Canadian Whigs moved south.

[Azura2]

(Sigh) OK let's look at it this way. British Columbia will elect 1 dem 1 repub as senators. Alberta 2 repubs. Manitoba depends on the strength of the candidate and ditto for Saskatchewan and Ontario. Same thing for Presidential elections.

[Alberta's Child]

Alberta rules.

Unlike many others on this thread, I do NOT foresee the day when Canada becomes part of the U.S. Canada serves as a great resource base for the United States, and one reason for that is the weak Canadian dollar. If the two countries joined, then most of Canada would become no different than those closed-down mining and lumber towns of the western U.S.