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North Dallas suburb's school board changes nickname from Coons [Racially Offensive]
Associated Press ^ | March 5, 2002 | A/P Staff

Posted on 03/05/2002 5:03:33 AM PST by MeekOneGOP

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To: Sloth
I'm not defending the Klan. I just don't believe anyone who says I knew a man who knew a man who had a grandfather who........

It's the stuff urban legends are made of.

51 posted on 03/05/2002 6:12:27 AM PST by Gaston
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To: MeeknMing
So now we can't have coon dogs?

All on needs to do is add the proper punctuation to the word to make a contraction. The proper change is make it now 'coon. Pretty easy to do and to then be able to keep our Southern slang proper without question of the origin.

52 posted on 03/05/2002 6:16:10 AM PST by Deguello
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To: MeeknMing
"Some students and parents in the North Dallas suburb had complained the nickname was racially offensive, and the Frisco School Board agreed Monday night, voting unanimously to change the nickname from Coons to Raccoons."

Apparently, they have way too much time on their hands up the in Frisco!

53 posted on 03/05/2002 6:19:07 AM PST by Destructor
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To: TxBec
ya mean Cajun? I know they call themselves CA's a lot. don't know why though

Oh, yeah. Cajun. Oops! :O)

54 posted on 03/05/2002 6:19:38 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Sloth
You believe everything is relative, don't you. I don't see a need to change from "Coon" to "Raccoon". It gives credibility to a leftist PC agenda which is bent on tearing down the past. If you don't have a past, you won't have a future.
55 posted on 03/05/2002 6:19:49 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: MeeknMing
While I don't care about the actual name change...'coons to raccoons, s'ok by me...the reasoning behind it is certainly to be pc. I heard about this a few days ago on the Dallas news.
I used to drive thru Frisco 10-12 yrs. ago. At that time, it seemed like just a small, quiet country town with a few older frame houses, a feed store, a local cafe, some old men in faded overalls...you know.
I remembered that when my family moved down to the Dallas area last year and I wanted that sort of older community. It's changed. The homes there are very expensive (too much for me) and it is the fastest growing part of the DFW metro. It's probably chock-full of 'liberal elites' now.

When I heard about the controversy, I was trying to imagine what it might be like to be a white person moving into a community of mostly black people whose HS team were called the "Crackers". That seemed an appropriate analogy, as the word "crackers" could be viewed with the same type of slant.
I dunno, it wouldn't bother me in the least.

56 posted on 03/05/2002 6:21:43 AM PST by scan58
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To: MeeknMing
I think cajun is a corruption of Acadian, the French Canadians who settled the area.
57 posted on 03/05/2002 6:24:46 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: MeeknMing
Cajun is short and slang for 'Arcadian', an area of Canada where the early settlers in Lousiana came from. Don't know about 'coon ass', but can't wait to hear.
58 posted on 03/05/2002 6:28:08 AM PST by fnord
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To: MeeknMing
bump
59 posted on 03/05/2002 6:33:41 AM PST by VOA
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To: fnord
Coonass - Cajun, Acadian, or Creole descendents in Louisiana...or just someone that was born and raised in New Orleans. The name Coonass is considered the equivalent to "Red Neck", but is a term of endearment to the native Louisiana folks.
Actual COONASS Story: The name Coonass comes from the Atakapa-Ishak Indians. The Indians nickname for themselves was "Kon Nesh," pronounced also "Kon Nash" (Literally meaning, "One strong, tough, durable tree!") In time, that Indian nickname among the Cajuns devolved into the contrived, totally unrelated "Coonass." The latter never was a shunned name for those who knew and remembered its etymology.

source

60 posted on 03/05/2002 6:33:53 AM PST by scan58
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To: scan58
cool, thanks
61 posted on 03/05/2002 6:37:14 AM PST by fnord
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To: Constitution Day
Over 2/3 of black babies born last year in the U.S. were illegitimate - but let's worry about serious things like the nicknames of high-school sports teams!

Those ba$tards!

Wow! Now that’s calling a Spade a Spade!

62 posted on 03/05/2002 6:42:25 AM PST by kapn kuek
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To: MeeknMing
North Dallas suburb

Wrong!

This is a North Plano suburb ...

(Stupid AP story writer)

Going North from Dallas you encounter the following communities: Richardson, Plano, Farmers Branch, Carrolton, Addison, Frisco ...

63 posted on 03/05/2002 6:43:06 AM PST by _Jim
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To: kapn kuek
Subtlety has never been my strong suit.
64 posted on 03/05/2002 6:47:02 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: MeeknMing
I guess the word "coons" has been taken over like the word "gay". It's all in the ear of the beholder as to what it means. I guess now "coon dogs" must be referred to as "racoon dogs".
65 posted on 03/05/2002 6:53:11 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MeeknMing
Frisco used to be a little town out in the middle of nowhere that had a Dairy Queen and a water tower with the school's mascot on it. I used to drive up there to feel like I was taking a drive out in the country. When the developers started building expensive houses just outside of town, the schools started having problems between the rich folks moving in and the regular folks who'd been there all their lives. Now, it is just one big middle class sprawl. It was just a matter of time before the Fighting Coons had to bite the dust.
66 posted on 03/05/2002 6:56:29 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: MeeknMing
One ignorant student, who happens to be black, has never heard of a relatively small mammal which is fond of crayfish...and decides to take "offense" at the creature's name being used as the name of a high school sports team.

It's been a couple of decades since I heard the word "coon" used in any context other than a shortened version of "raccoon".

The name is axed by the equally ignorant PC crowd. I'm offended that one of our popular native wildlife species has been denigrated so.

What's next? Will we change the name of the raccoon? Does our illustrious government make the use of the shortened nickname "'coon" illegal?

SAY, how about we get rid of the word "pig"? We all know who THAT word has been used to describe! How about "cow"? Some obese woman might become offended. OOOooo...and DOG, too!! Where the heck does this P.C. B.S. END??

67 posted on 03/05/2002 6:58:07 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: MeeknMing
Click on the Collegiate Thesaurus tab to look up the current word in the thesaurus.

Merriam Webster Collegiate Dictionary

Coon

101 entries found for black.

black[1,adjective]black[2,noun]black[3,verb]black Etymology: Middle English blak, from Old English blæc; akin to Old High German blah black, and probably to Latin flagrare to burn, Greek phlegein Date: before 12th century 1 a : of the color black b (1) : very dark in color b (1) often capitalized : of or relating to any of various population groups having dark pigmentation of the skin (2) : of or relating to the Afro-American people or their culture (3) : typical or representative of the most readily attended parts of black culture 3 : dressed in black 4 : DIRTY, SOILED 5 a : characterized by the absence of light b : reflecting or transmitting little or no light c : served without milk or cream 6 a : thoroughly sinister or evil : WICKED b : indicative of condemnation or discredit 7 : connected with or invoking the supernatural and especially the devil 8 a : very sad, gloomy, or calamitous b : marked by the occurrence of disaster 9 : characterized by hostility or angry discontent : SULLEN 10 chiefly British : subject to boycott by trade-union members as employing or favoring nonunion workers or as operating under conditions considered unfair by the trade union 11 a of propaganda : conducted so as to appear to originate within an enemy country and designed to weaken enemy morale b : characterized by or connected with the use of black propaganda 12 : characterized by grim, distorted, or grotesque satire 13 : of or relating to covert intelligence operations - black·ish /'bla-kish/ adjective - black·ly adverb - black·ness noun

68 posted on 03/05/2002 7:02:10 AM PST by TexKat
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To: fnord; Dakmar
Cajun is short and slang for 'Arcadian', an area of Canada where the early settlers in Lousiana came from. Don't know about 'coon ass', but can't wait to hear.

Thanks for the info, folks.
Yeah, I'll be interested to hear that too. . .

69 posted on 03/05/2002 7:03:53 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: Dakmar
There you go Dak! Post #60.
70 posted on 03/05/2002 7:06:05 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: _Jim
Plano, Richardson, Addison, all we consider North of Dallas. Actually we consider a part of Dallas. In one and out the other.
72 posted on 03/05/2002 7:09:26 AM PST by TexKat
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To: ohioWfan
I agree with you. There is nothing racist in the term "Indian" and it is not used in an offensive manner.

"Coon" on the other hand,when used loosely, is an obvious racial slur and should be replaced by Raccoon. This is not catering to political correctness, its eliminating a blatant racist term.

Coon Hound is the recognized name of several brreds of American hunting dogs used on Raccoons, bears, cougars, wild boar and four-footed game. Generally preceeded by Black and Tan, Redbone, Plott, Treeing Walker, etc. Not likely to be confused with a racial slur.

73 posted on 03/05/2002 7:12:05 AM PST by ZULU
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To: Lockbox
What do we do about Louisiana?

Pass another friggin' law, silly.

74 posted on 03/05/2002 7:12:40 AM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: MeeknMing
We are all Coons on this bus!
75 posted on 03/05/2002 7:15:19 AM PST by Khepera
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To: CWRWinger
You believe everything is relative, don't you. I don't see a need to change from "Coon" to "Raccoon". It gives credibility to a leftist PC agenda which is bent on tearing down the past. If you don't have a past, you won't have a future.

Hyperbolize much? People like you are concerned with symbolism over substance. If people really are bothered by the name, why not modify it? What great history is being lost? They won't even have to change mascots.

76 posted on 03/05/2002 7:24:24 AM PST by Sloth
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To: TexKat
Dallas has also been moving to the northwest, as you know. Coppel, Lewisville, Corinth. Several years ago an influx of northern newcomers objected to the Lewisville High School football team's name, the Fighting Farmers. Thought it was too yokel, hick and all. They didn't get their way.
77 posted on 03/05/2002 7:29:57 AM PST by xJones
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To: Sloth
Okay, please put my name on all your paychecks from now on.
78 posted on 03/05/2002 7:32:28 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: ZULU
No, no, no. You folks have it all wrong. The name-change was made in the name of grammatical correctness, for "Fighting Coons" is simply an oxy-moron, don't you see?
79 posted on 03/05/2002 7:37:33 AM PST by mikhailovich
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To: MeeknMing
Mark Davis is talking about this subject this morning. Some guy just called in and said there were 100 people at the school board meeting and all of them were against the name change. No one stood up for it. Coon is short for Racoon. No big deal. People make mountains out of mole hills.

I'm off in my own little world I guess. The only negative terms I can think of for black people is the "N" word. I didn't even know "Coon" was a negative term for blacks.

My neighbor got a ticket for shooting a fire arm off in the city limits where we live. A Coon got in the house and they couldn't get it out, so they shot it. What else where they suppose to do? It was scared to death and was tearing up the house. How did I get off on that tale? Gotta go pack!

80 posted on 03/05/2002 7:44:53 AM PST by SpookBrat
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To: MeeknMing
OK, who is going to tell the environmentalists we must exterminate all the racoons because they are racially offensive?

Its for the children.

82 posted on 03/05/2002 8:08:54 AM PST by mindprism.com
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To: rudeboy666
True story:

I know an old black gentleman who is an avid coon hunter. Every time I see him, I ask, "been......hunting lately?"

He says, "yeah, them cooons...... boy day CRAZY man!.....day tear yo a$$ up, boy!"

83 posted on 03/05/2002 8:09:04 AM PST by mikhailovich
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To: mikhailovich
If you want to get REALLY PC about it, the "Frisco" part could be offensive to Hispanics, the "Fightin'" offensive to peaceniks and "Coons" offensive to blacks.

The town should change it's name thus making the football team the "Suburban Non-Aggressive African-Americans".

Go SNAAA Go! Go SNAAA Go!

Of course, the anti-SUV crowd might have a problem with "Suburban"...

84 posted on 03/05/2002 8:12:21 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: MeeknMing
"I have a friend whose grandfather was killed by a Klan member, and he had that etched in on his chest, and it bothered him."

I dont understand this statment. Is it the dead guy that was bothered? or are we to believe there is a highschool student who has a friend that is alive and has "coon" etched in his chest.

Right...lets see a bunch of white guys got tegether 80 years ago to name a high school to piss off the black folks...I think they should petition that the word coon be stricken from the english language and censored from its books as well...then hold hands and sing kumbya

85 posted on 03/05/2002 8:18:53 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: MeeknMing
Still mourning the loss of Beaver College
86 posted on 03/05/2002 8:18:56 AM PST by xp38
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To: abwehr
The word "raccoon" has been around a heckuvalot longer than that. If you only look for insulting uses of a word, you will find only insulting uses of a word.

"'Coon" is a contraction of "raccoon"...a word given to us by the Native Americans, who named our fuzzy, crawdad loving friend.

I know "'coon" has been used as an insult. So have "pig", "dog", "cow", "bovine", "snake", "pigeon", "drip", "grunt", "gay" and many others.

Big deal.

87 posted on 03/05/2002 8:27:09 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Gaston
I had to read this twice to understand what it meant. The kid is referring to his friend having the word "Coon" written on the front of his shirt (presumably a sports uniform), not the friend's grandfather having the word carved into his chest.
88 posted on 03/05/2002 8:40:55 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: _Jim
Going North from Dallas you encounter the following communities: Richardson, Plano, Farmers Branch, Carrolton, Addison, Frisco ...

But not in that particular order.

89 posted on 03/05/2002 8:47:20 AM PST by al_c
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To: Tall_Texan
the "Frisco" part could be offensive to Hispanics,

..uh.. I don't get it.

90 posted on 03/05/2002 8:49:04 AM PST by TxBec
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To: MeeknMing
"ya learn something new every day on FR" bump :)
91 posted on 03/05/2002 8:50:07 AM PST by TxBec
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To: xJones
Funny, you mentioned Lewisville's Football Team. That was the rival team for Keller, where my son attended and played football. Everytime we had to play at their field, we had to be escorted in and out of the town by police.

But we had fun. Now my son has been in the military going on 10 years. My how time flys.

92 posted on 03/05/2002 8:52:59 AM PST by TexKat
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To: TxBec
"the "Frisco" part could be offensive to Hispanics,

..uh.. I don't get it."

I hired a Mexican guy named Francisco to work in the kitchen of a restaraunt I managed. He hated it when I called him "Frankie", so I only called him that when he was getting on my nerves...that probably doesn't help.

I don't get it, either.

93 posted on 03/05/2002 8:54:56 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: TxBec
Doesn't matter what it means, just what somebody might *perceive* it to mean. That's the whole point of Political Correctness. Or have you not heard about the Washington DC official who was fired for using the word "niggardly" in its correct and proper form? Or the folks who tried to ban streets sign which read "Slow Children At Play"?

Frisco is probably a word with Hispanic roots. In PC-ville, that's all the stretch you need.

94 posted on 03/05/2002 8:57:37 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: ZULU
"Coon Hound is the recognized name of several brreds of American hunting dogs used on Raccoons, bears, cougars, wild boar and four-footed game. Generally preceeded by Black and Tan, Redbone, Plott, Treeing Walker, etc. Not likely to be confused with a racial slur"

I hope you don't plan to bet money on that...

95 posted on 03/05/2002 8:57:54 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Tall_Texan
:)

I'm Hispanic and I still don't get it (Guess I'm not PC-minded.) The closest word I can think of is "fresco" or "fresca" which mean fresh.

96 posted on 03/05/2002 9:09:54 AM PST by TxBec
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To: xp38
Still mourning the loss of Beaver College

LOL! Thanks for the link. That's a good one. . .

97 posted on 03/05/2002 9:15:43 AM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: mikhailovich
I don't judge people by color, I judge them by political philosphy.
98 posted on 03/05/2002 9:35:28 AM PST by ZULU
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To: TxBec
There's a famous steakhouse here in Austin named Frisco. It's also a common condensed word for "San Francisco". I don't know what it means either. I'm just saying, it doesn't matter.

Wonder what will happen in another thirty years when high schools are named after rappers and thieves. What would they do if any white groups complained such names were offensive? I'll bet they'll get laughed at.

In fact, there's probably a Malcolm X High School out there already. Wonder if their football team is the "White Devils"?

99 posted on 03/05/2002 9:36:05 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Sloth
Correct. Opposite location in the northern hemisphere.
100 posted on 03/05/2002 9:36:45 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar
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