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Alec Baldwin Compares 2000 Elections to Sept 11
Tallahassee Democrat ^

Posted on 03/08/2002 7:42:46 AM PST by Dallas

Florida's 2000 presidential election fiasco damaged democracy as badly as the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks hurt the nation, actor Alec Baldwin said Thursday.

Baldwin told a Florida A&M University audience that President Bush and his brother, Gov. Jeb Bush, are hoping that a wartime "moratorium on criticizing the government" will help Republicans in the fall elections.

Baldwin, a New Yorker, said memories of Sept. 11 have overshadowed public doubts about the 36-day recount of Florida presidential ballots. He said the war makes it hard for Bush critics to remind voters of "this other disaster that we faced in this country - a disaster that ... has done as much damage to our country as any terrorist attack could do, in some ways.

"I know that's a harsh thing to say, perhaps, but I believe that what happened in 2000 did as much damage to the pillars of democracy as terrorists did to the pillars of commerce in New York City," Baldwin said, drawing applause from the breakfast audience of about 200.

Bush spokeswoman Elizabeth Hirst said the governor signed legislation last year providing $24 million in election-reform funding over two years, including $6 million for voter education and $2 million for a statewide registration database. Much of the rest will go for replacing punch-card voting equipment and training poll workers to avoid what happened in the presidential election.

"Florida has moved on and America has moved on," she said. "We've got a president with incredibly high ratings now."

The governor also is running substantially ahead of Democratic challengers in Florida polls.

Baldwin is a board member of People for the American Way, a liberal lobbying group that sponsored the two-day observation of the second anniversary of a mass march on Tallahassee. The march protested the governor's 1999 executive orders that supplanted affirmative action in university admissions and state contracting.

As in a rally at St. Mary's Primitive Baptist Church on Wednesday night, speakers at the FAMU prayer breakfast focused more on the disputed 2000 presidential election than the One Florida protests they were commemorating. Baldwin and other speakers warned that voters will face new challenges this year because legislative and congressional redistricting is changing political boundaries.

He said the White House and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, along with the governor and other Republican leaders, are banking on the news media and voters staying distracted by the war on terrorism.

"When Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon spokespeople say to you, 'Well, this is going to be a long war, we're going to be in Afghanistan for the long haul,' what that euphemism means is that the moratorium on criticizing the government must be extended longer and longer and longer - ideally, beyond the 2002 election," Baldwin said.

Participants in the rally and prayer breakfast included Sen. Kendrick Meek, D-Miami, and former Rep. Tony Hill of Jacksonville. The two staged a sit-in at the lieutenant governor's office Jan. 18-19, 2000, demanding to see Bush about One Florida. The sit-in led to a March 7 march of about 12,000 protesters on the Capitol and a voter-registration drive that boosted black turnout by about 65 percent in the presidential election.

Meek said the governor could be in trouble if people "remember in November" what happened two years ago.

"It's like a hurricane, starting like a tropical storm and going to Category 1, Category 2," Meek said. "That's what I feel is coming in November. In this upcoming election, for the first time in state history, we're going to make sure everyone's vote is counted."

Contact reporter Bill Cotterell at (850) 599-2243 or

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To: da_toolman
Thanks for the flag. BTW, here's the ever-popular Caption Alec thread, for those who like to chuckle....
81 posted on 03/08/2002 8:37:57 AM PST by summer
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To: PRND21
Yep....I actually think he's gonna bypass local/state, and go for a U.S. seat.
82 posted on 03/08/2002 8:38:08 AM PST by Dallas
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To: elephant
See post #67 above and save your money......
83 posted on 03/08/2002 8:38:14 AM PST by tracer
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To: steve-b
I was thinking the exact same thing. Why is he still in the US? So much for keeping promises, eh Alec?
84 posted on 03/08/2002 8:39:42 AM PST by Hat-Trick
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To: Dallas
85 posted on 03/08/2002 8:40:19 AM PST by ellery
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To: sinkspur
Re: Your #26: Well-said. Couldn't agree more.
86 posted on 03/08/2002 8:41:20 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: RetiredArmy
Only reason why I still keep my Hunt for Red October DVD is Sean Connery and that Tom Clancy wrote it. Other then that, my house is Baldwinless.
87 posted on 03/08/2002 8:51:23 AM PST by zandtar
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To: Dallas
How did Clinton effect the ``pillars of Democracy.''
88 posted on 03/08/2002 8:56:23 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Hollywood Ping List
All bump lists
89 posted on 03/08/2002 8:57:36 AM PST by vikingchick
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To: Malacoda
I still can't belive that this puke actually played Jack Ryan in the movie based on Tom Clancy's The Hunt for Red October. I mean it makes me want to puke! How could Clancy have approved of that casting??!! I mean, Jack Ryan is a patriot. Talk about being miscast.
90 posted on 03/08/2002 9:04:58 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: Teacher317
He just keeps wasting oxygen, doesn't he? Must be awful to be him.
91 posted on 03/08/2002 9:06:38 AM PST by Samwise
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To: Dallas
BTW -- re: the "sit-in," mentioned in above article. Here's a STATEMENT OF GOV. JEB BUSH:


Wednesday, January 19, 2000
(850) 488-5394


TALLAHASSEE - For the past 24 hours, Senator Kendrick Meek and Representative Anthony Hill occupied the personal office of Lt. Governor Frank Brogan, to demand that Governor Bush rescind his Executive Order implementing the One Florida Initiative. After many hours of intense discussions, Senator Meek and Representative Hill have agreed to withdraw their demand and have voluntarily removed themselves from Lt. Governor Brogan's office.

While I am disappointed that Senator Meek and Representative Hill chose to raise their concerns with the One Florida Initiative in this manner, I am pleased that we have been able to reach an agreement ending their "sit-in" in a peaceful and dignified way. Under the agreement, Chancellor Adam Herbert and the Board of Regents have agreed to postpone consideration of One Florida's Equity in Education Plan until February 17, 2000, in order to allow for further public discussion about its likely effect on minority student enrollment in Florida's colleges and universities.

The agreement also calls for a series of three legislative hearings, in Tallahassee, Tampa and Miami, to discuss fully aspects of the One Florida Initiative that may require legislative action. These hearings are in addition to those held in December, at which members of my staff and the Lieutenant Governor testified. I have also met again with members of the Black Caucus and other interested legislators to continue the statewide dialogue about steps we can take to preserve and increase diversity in state hiring and contracting, and in our higher education system.

Senator Meek and Representative Hill have promised to provide me with their written comments and recommendations about the One Florida Initiative by January 28th. I look forward to receiving their comments and recommendations, and those of other citizens with an interest in this issue. I will also continue reaching out to Floridians from all walks of life to listen to their views and to share my vision of diversity and opportunity with fairness.

The Governor's Office belongs to the citizens of Florida. As I stated previously, I will never allow it to be used again as a vehicle for this type of protest, no matter what the cause. I nevertheless accept the public apology issued by Senator Meek and Representative Hill for the inconveniences caused by their actions, and I hope that reasonable people, particularly those who hold the public trust as elected officials, can always seek reasonable forums for public discourse on matters of mutual concern.

Ironically, the sit-in waged by Senator Meek and Representative Hill comes at the same time that we learned the U.S. Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights has found the One Florida Initiative fully consistent with Florida's historic federal/state civil rights partnership agreement. This welcomed action by the Clinton/Gore administration suggests that the truth about One Florida's positive impact is beginning to shine through. I remain committed to sharing that truth with all Floridians.

I also remain focused on the attainable goal of more minorities in Florida's colleges, more minorities contracting with State government, and more diversity in government and the judiciary.

92 posted on 03/08/2002 9:11:53 AM PST by summer
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To: blackdog
Nobody voted for Alec Baldwin's opinion.

This whole get-together was supposed to be to protest ONE FLORIDA....a program which everyone seems to like, and one that seems to be working. When you get right down to it...he is protesting the idea that Black people in Florida should have equal rights...that they be treated as any other self reliant human being. His pro-slavery liberalism is uglier than his bloated face.

93 posted on 03/08/2002 9:15:59 AM PST by JessicaDragonet
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To: summer
Grandstanding bunch of clymers...
94 posted on 03/08/2002 9:24:32 AM PST by Dallas
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To: Dallas
Alec Baldwin is a dick head
96 posted on 03/08/2002 9:56:29 AM PST by solo gringo
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To: RetiredArmy
And don't forget Mel Gibson's great movies! Keep buying them!
97 posted on 03/08/2002 10:02:01 AM PST by Marysecretary
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I keep waiting for the word to go to Alec's and help him pack for his new home in France!
98 posted on 03/08/2002 10:03:22 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Hagrid
Don't bother doing that. Tracer already has one!
99 posted on 03/08/2002 10:10:47 AM PST by Marysecretary
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To: Dallas
You can't get rid of this guy...he's like a barnicle.
100 posted on 03/08/2002 10:12:06 AM PST by geege
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