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To: watchin
Look, you're wanting to paint me with the moral-relativist brush just because I don't believe one requires a divine mandate to figure out that rape or murder is wrong.

What makes civilization civilized? It would be in large part the organization of government and the application of laws (any good Freeper should know this). So essesntially, a majority of people decide that a certain thing is wrong and punishible and give the government power to enforce. There are plenty of people who defy such "things" and they are prosecuted and punished.

"Someone else might believe that lying is good, rape is virtuous, and stealing is honest?"

Hey, look around man. There are plenty of people like that. They're called criminals.
38 posted on 03/10/2002 1:52:07 PM PST by NeoCrusade
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To: NeoCrusade
"Look, you're wanting to paint me with the moral-relativist brush"

Certainly. And pointing out, at the same time, that any other view is inconsistent for the atheist.

I'm not trying to pick a fight. I'm just pointing out the reality. As soon as you claim that we just made up morality, you essentially admit to being a moral relativist.

If we just made up the rules out of thin air, then there really is no such thing as a criminal. Nothing is really wrong, but only contrary to the opinion of the majority, who imposes its morality on the minority.

So you can call those who find rape honorable "criminals", but your definition of a criminal is simply someone who disagrees with you. If his side was the majority, you'd be a "criminal" for avoiding rape.

41 posted on 03/10/2002 9:43:30 PM PST by watchin
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