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To: Dynamo
I pray for myself, for the world, and for you. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. He loves you and me that much.

Can I ask you the question too, then: Why is this example of what I'd call the "Scapegoat Theory of Justice" a logical one? Can you even visualize a society whose justice system is based on the idea of offering up innocent 3rd parties to stand in punishment for the real criminals' crimes? Would you call it a just society? Would you call it a reasonable theory of justice? Coherent, even? I don't.

This tells me, as much as anything else, that Christianity was dreamed up by men of a very particular time & place.

30 posted on 03/10/2002 4:05:00 PM PST by jennyp
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To: jennyp
See # 29

W.K.

31 posted on 03/10/2002 4:06:01 PM PST by WhiteKnight
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To: jennyp
Dynamo: I pray for myself, for the world, and for you. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. He loves you and me that much.

jennyp: Can you even visualize a society whose justice system is based on the idea of offering up innocent 3rd parties to stand in punishment for the real criminals' crimes?


Invalid comparison. Jesus offered himself as a sacrifice. In your example, others offer the innocent. The willing and the enforced.

-The Hajman-
33 posted on 03/10/2002 4:15:59 PM PST by Hajman
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To: jennyp
"This tells me, as much as anything else, that Christianity was dreamed up by men of a very particular time & place."

And I had thought that religion started when the first Knave encountered the first Fool.

49 posted on 03/10/2002 5:44:47 PM PST by S.O.S121.500
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To: jennyp
I'll pray for you too.

Your question, and this entire thread, assume as their basis that the Bible is not the perfect and inspired Word of God. Both also assume that Man's mind is capable of understanding, and perhaps even thinking more clearly, than the God who created him.

But this is a very uninformed position, and I'll tell you how even you can know this.

The Bible is actually a historical record that goes back many thousands of years. It contains many predictions, referred to as "prophecies," delivered throughout history by the chosen prophets of God.

Thousands of such predictions of what would happen in the future were (are!) given in the Bible.

Of the major Biblical prophecies, only four remain as yet un-fulfilled.

Every other one has come to be, just as the Bible predicted. Every single one. Jesus Christ Himself fulfilled over 2,000 of these prophecies in His lifetime alone.

Nobody is that good a "guesser." The Holy Word of God is perfect, and the imperfect creations who deign to "know better" are just as foolish as the Bible says they are.

I'll pray for both of us; me for my sins, and you for your hardened heart.

62 posted on 03/11/2002 4:58:21 AM PST by Dynamo
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To: jennyp
Yes, the version of Christianity you are falsely assuming is the only, or at least the original, strain was dreamt up by Anselm of Canterbury after the Patriarchate of Rome had split from the rest of the Church.

Incidentally "the God-Man" or "Theanthropos" predates Anselm, and is a usual description of Christ in the original version of Christianity, now usually called Eastern Orthodoxy.

78 posted on 03/11/2002 10:22:04 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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