[Hajman]

Mmmmm... well, true, offering oneself to do the time for another's crime is less bad than being forced to, but it still doesn't make sense. I mean - if "fall guy" was a recognized occupation, what do you think the going rate would be to get someone to do a 2-5 sentence in a medium-security prison? etc. (There's a dystopian novel there somewhere!)

Look, I can understand how a believer in God would be comforted by His willingness to forgive us our transgressions if we repent, but many Christians seem to be moved by the symbolism of Jesus the Willing Fallguy. It's that metaphor specifically that makes no sense to me.

It wouldn't make much sense looking at it from a human point of view. The reason why is because Jesus wasn't the 'fall guy'; Jesus was the perfect sacrifice. In other words, him being the 'fall guy' (as you put it) was enough to clean our wrongdoing. Why not just let the wrongdoer do that himself? Because it failed. It couldn't do what was needed. The small peice of the equation in here that you're missing is perfection, something man doesn't have (and so man's system won't work in the big scheme of things).

-The Hajman-

[PatrickHenry]

The small peice of the equation in here that you're missing is perfection, something man doesn't have (and so man's system won't work in the big scheme of things).

If I may jump in, it seems rather like the "progressive" income tax, coupled with the welfare system. Destroy the very best, as an undeserved gift to the rest of us. I never looked at it this way before. These discussions are an excellent stimulant.