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To: Neanderthal
Get that last line where he offers private lessons in masturbation for those who are interested? Also, he says that it is a form of sex abuse, and yet it is justified because of the risk of AIDS. What religion was this speaker - or was he speaking from any religious standpoint at all? All the Abrahamic religions condemn masturbation, to a greater or lesser degree. In Judaism, they say that a man may not spill his seed in vain. However, masturbation by women is therefore not a problem. So the Rabbis have eliminated half the issue, and tend to leave it to the individual to control their desires. Christianity teaches that masturbation is a serious sin for anyone, and they have waged a campaign against it for centuries. There were all sorts of penalties, including being made to sleep wearing mittens lined with sandpaper. Islam also teaches that masturbation is a sin, although there is no specific penalty for it (amid all the stonings, floggings, amputations etc. there is nothing for masturbation.) The Islamic authorities, although they condemn it, do concede that it is better to masturbate than commit adultery. (I should say so!) I can't leave off without repeating that old joke - there was a survey of school boys in which 95% admitted to masturbation. The other 5% were liars.
3 posted on 03/16/2002 1:54:12 AM PST by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
"Get that last line where he offers private lessons in masturbation for those who are interested?"

Yeah, this guy may have some serious issues that he needs to work out . . .

4 posted on 03/16/2002 2:03:59 AM PST by Neanderthal
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To: BlackVeil
Catholicism condemns masturbation, not Biblical Christianity. The rabbis' teaching of men not 'spilling their seed' is a misinterpretion of the Genesis account of Judah's second son, Onan, who refused to perform his family duty by raising up a child through his brother's widow that would carry on his brother's name. What made it such a grievious sin is that he could have simply refused to accept Tamar (his sister-in-law), but he didn't. Using her for his own selfish pleasure was fine by him as long as it didn't end in pregnancy, which of course was the only reason why the two of them were to be engaged in sexual intercourse.

The AIDS pandemic on the African continent is so horrendous and out of control that this man is right to promote masturbation as the lesser of two evils. There are some estimates that say 1 out of every 5 Africans has the AIDS virus.

6 posted on 03/16/2002 2:24:22 AM PST by gracex7
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To: BlackVeil
Christianity teaches that masturbation is a serious sin for anyone, ...

Other than the reference in the Old Testatment about a man "spilling his seed on the ground," I am not familiar with anything Biblical on the subject of masturbation. Just because various Christian denominations have made their own judgment on the subject doesn't make it Biblical.

7 posted on 03/16/2002 10:44:06 AM PST by scholar
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