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To: harpseal
The FBI says this is a good shooting? Heads need to roll. This is about a clownish example of a felony car stop that I have ever seen in my life.

To the FBI: Do you have any clue how to make a felony traffic stop?

The agent shot the kid THROUGH THE GLASS of the car. He was in no danger.

When I went to a law enforcement sniper school we were informed that tests had been done shooting through glass, from the inside, or near the glass, to a target on the outside. After the round hits the glass there is no telling where it will go, the shot will be very inaccurate.

I can't believe they figured the robber was known to have BB guns and screwed up what should have been a BASIC felony car stop and shot this poor kid in the face. I wonder at what point the agent felt his life was in danger.

You fella's screwed up big time and need to own up to it.

52 posted on 03/18/2002 8:15:40 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Oh, wait a minute, I do remember another circus traffic stop, they made a movie about it: "The Miami shoot out", or "How not to make a felony traffic stop, starring the FBI"

Seems we havent learned much.

54 posted on 03/18/2002 8:18:23 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Cap'n Crunch
I wonder at what point the agent felt his life was in danger.

My guess is that the agent didn't feel that his life was in danger, but he just enjoys shooting people. Apparently this isn't the first time that this dickhead has shot someone.

61 posted on 03/18/2002 8:41:50 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: Cap'n Crunch
The failure to use the proper felony stop procedure is IMHO the essentail ommission of due care that causes this entire action to escalate into criminal negligence that fits the reckless endangerment law. Some years back the FBI lost a few agents in the Miami shootout (platt Matix is the name that comes to mind by I could very well be corrected on this). supposedly after this incident the Felony stop became SOP for FBI agents.

Now on to todays revalation that the informant arrived on the scene of the shooting without paramedics there administering to the wounded civilian. Fromn prior stories we know the paramedics were summoned at 6:12 PM and arrived at 6:15PM. The several minutes for the informant to arrive on scene is time where the agents could have called for paramedics and an ambulance. We know there were four agents on the scene and two people in the car that had been stopped. what would happen to an officer in your department who delayed calling for medical assistance when a suspect had been shot? In most of the local PD's I know of that officer would be hanging by a very tender part of his anatomy. I do know from Mrs. Harpseals former employment with the Department of Corrections that delaying emergency treatment can be grounds for letting a perp walk and for prosecution of the officers involved. In short every agent on scene has "Sc*wed the Pooch repeatedly on this one." They did it so big time that the acts were criminal in nature. Now the automobile safety glass between the agent and the person he shot not only reduces the threat to the agent it increases the danger to the young lady driving showing agent Braga to be even more reckless.

Stay well - Stay safe- stay armed - Yorktown

63 posted on 03/18/2002 8:49:31 AM PST by harpseal
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