89 are indicted in online porn case

The Dallas Morning News ^ | March 19, 2002 | By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT / The Dallas Morning News

[Grampa Dave]

Yep, just consider the source!

[PhiKapMom]

I was ready to use my Take Back the Senate ping list on here just to show how important it is to retake the Senate! I really like the job that Ashcroft is doing if this is an example!

[WarHawk42]

I'd be more enthusiastic about the arrests if these sickos had actually been producing child porn. But they were only passing it around.

It seems to me you are making an assumption here.  How do we know at least some of these people weren't producing the porn?

I grew up in a different time.  We had much more freedom but many of our laws were based on a moral code.  I don't see porn as a freedom.  Porn was not acceptable when I was growing up and in my opinion in a moral society shouldn't be.

This speaks more about where our society is today more than anything else I think.  I don't accept it and I hope they round them all up.

WarHawk42

[Grampa Dave]

Why do you think that John Ashcroft is so hated by the two extreme groups in America politics!

One clue is he is not incompetent!

[PhiKapMom]

Very good point about John Ashcroft who it seems I have been defending on here for sometime and wondering why. Nice to know a few folks think like I do about him and the job he is doing!

[motexva]

What could be more vicious?

Crashing planes into international landmarks and killing thousands of people.

Sorry, taking the time and the energy to set up a sting to catch people passing around kiddie porn (and I'll be interested in seeing how many of these charges hold up in court) that may have been produced decades ago is not justified when foreign agents may be roaming the country eager to kill thousands. In normal times I'd say go for it, but not when the country is at war and under attack.

[moyden]

Ignore the psycho-babble liberals - child porn DOES create pedophiles!

[motexva]

How do we know at least some of these people weren't producing the porn?

No one's been charged with it yet, only possession. Perhaps the east Texas ringleader, but it sounds like most of these people were entrapped. Again, normally I wouldn't care, all of them could be hanged, but the war on terror is more important. Perhaps this sting was planned pre-9/11, in any event now those agents need to be reassigned to more vital assignments.

[wheezer]

Very good point about John Ashcroft who it seems I have been defending on here for sometime and wondering why.

I guess I'm one of those on FR who you might describe as an "Ashcroft hater", although I don't hate him, I just think he is the wrong man for the job at this time in our nation's history.

I do appreciate this operation against the pedophiles, and salute Ashcroft for this. However, I would still prefer to have another AG.

[PhiKapMom]

I can understand your point! I didn't put you in the category that I have seen of the tirades against Ashcroft on here. I never considered your posts "hate" posts either! I just saw some anti-Ashcroft posts that went way over the line on here and wondered why.

[ICU812]

Get it through your head--these ARE terrorists--domestic terrorists involved in the torture and brutalizing of children.

Uh, no they are not terrorists. As Rush Limbaugh says 'words have meanings' and the word terrorist has a specific meaning. It is not just synonymous with 'criminal'.

I have noticed since the beginning of 'the war on terrorism' the tendency for people to apply that term more and more loosely. Thats how you end up with the federal government buying Super Bowl ads(with our money) calling casual drug users terrorists and how you end up with liberal politicians calling Enron execs 'financial terrorists'. Stop the newspeak please.

[semaj]

"Any arrest of these pedophiles is good -- I would also like to see major arrests of those who make the tapes and take the photos. Harming children is a 911 everyday for those children victimized."

It's sad that you even had to explain it to the person, but I'm glad you did.

[wheezer]

I never considered your posts "hate" posts either!

Well, when it comes to Ashcroft (and a few other topics), I'm sure on a few occassions I've hit the "post reply" button only to regret it on reconsideration. ;o)

Thanks!

[PhiKapMom]

Haven't we all! Sometimes I will go back and read what I said and wonder how I could have posted such nonsense which seemed perfectly okay when I hit post! Then I hope that nobody reads it!

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

I would imagine a lot of those involved are tied to the homo community and they should investigate to see how many and what groups they belong to.After that,go public with the connection!

[uncbob]

What I don't understand about porn in general is how do they stay in business. If you see the statistics on the number of sites you wonder how they can make a profit with so many existing. And where do you find enough bodies to get material for all those sites., I would assume they have to pay the hired help

[wheezer]

Then I hope that nobody reads it!

LOL....been there, done that.... with some real doozies (as I'm sure every Freeper has)!

;o)

[log_cabin_gop_boy]

Clergy members, Little League coaches and a teacher's aide are among the 89 people charged...

All these pigs in Texas? Does anyone in Texas know if Katy, Channelview, Palestine and College Station are Republican or Democratic towns?

[Godel]

But what's this crap about charging these guys with only one count? EACH picture/video should be one count.

God you're stupid. If you made each picture one count, then people with 10 pictures will wind up in prison longer than someone like Westerfield who actually kidnaps, rapes, and murders a child.

I can understand your outrage but mindless comments like yours are just ridiculous. It's supposed to be a justice system where people are punished according to the severity of their crime.

If you let pedophiles know that you'll punish them more for looking at pictures than you will for actually kidnapping and murdering children, what do you expect to happen?

[log_cabin_gop_boy]

I would imagine a lot of those involved are tied to the homo community and they should investigate to see how many and what groups they belong to.After that,go public with the connection!

And if the suspects are not gay and looking at female child porn should the Feds go public with what organizations, churchs and political parties they belong to?