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Homophobia and Pedophilia -- Joined at the Hip
Recent reports | 3/24/02 | HMV

Posted on 03/24/2002 7:10:59 PM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid

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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
Quite an interesting thread here...lots of opinions, lots of 'facts' and 'figures' being thrown around here...not sure if these 'facts and figures' are real or imaginary, or if they are just what people want to believe...

I have no idea what causes homosexuality...I have seen people on this thread, state absolutely, that all homosexuals are that way, because they were abused by another homosexual, and that they know no other way...

Some people believe homosexuality is a choice, some believe its genetic and that one has no choice...

Some people want to believe that almost all homosexuals are also pedophiles(but seem to run for cover when its brought up that many heterosexual men abuse little girls, or state that even tho men may abuse little girls, they are usually family members and this is harder to root out...small consolation for those little girls abused by strangers)

Everyone has their own opinion, and are entitled to it...

For me, the issue has always been to protect my children from any pedophile, homosexual or heterosexual...I always told my boys, that if ever, any man or any woman, ever touched them in an inappropriate place, that they must come and tell me about it...And I always emphasized that it did not matter who the abusing person might be...whether it was a teacher, a minister, a friends parents, a cub scout leader, a neighbor, a relative or a bum on the street....

I trusted no one when it came to my kids...I was not paranoid, nor did I try to make my boys paranoid...I just simply and matter of factly explained to them, that there are bad and evil people out in the world, people who harm and abuse children...I told them most people are good, and would not harm them, but they must be ever watchful, be ever careful, and realize that as their mom, I would protect them, and believe them if they came to me with the truth...

Its a hard job to keep ones children safe...and I would probably try to kill anyone who tried to sexually abuse my children...And whether the abuser was a homosexual or a heterosexual makes absolutely no difference to me..

221 posted on 03/25/2002 12:43:07 PM PST by andysandmikesmom
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To: ConsistentLibertarian;Calculus_of_Consent
ConsistentLibertarian is rational and backs her views inteligently. I haven't see her resort to name calling or personal attacks as most Liberals are wont to do.

post#171 EdReform is the one posting information on how great anal sex is.

....and that's a blatant LIE!

222 posted on 03/25/2002 2:34:06 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: GrandMoM
Take a look at post # 119. There EdReform posts the following quote: "Many people don't know the anus is not only an organ to remove waste. It's very sexually exciteable...Your first few times having anal sex might be a little hard. You may have to practice a bit before it starts feeling really good." It's somewhat lurid, and I can't understand how Gramma missed it, but there it is.
223 posted on 03/25/2002 2:41:34 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Clint N. Suhks
If your asking what's the right moral principle, I'll start with: leave people alone to do what they want in the privacy of their own home if they aren't hurting anybody else. It's all part of my anti-liberal, individual freedom, smaller government agenda.
224 posted on 03/25/2002 2:48:03 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
I'll start with: leave people alone to do what they want in the privacy of their own home if they aren't hurting anybody else.

Yep, that’s pretty much what thought, your moral principle sounds a little relative if you ask me. You’re sick to think incest and bestiality should be legal, I suspected as much. Perhaps you’re better suited for Amsterdam, have fun.

225 posted on 03/25/2002 3:12:46 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Perhaps you're better suited for life with the Taliban. I hear they too wanted to regulate what sort of sex consenting adults had in their home.
226 posted on 03/25/2002 3:15:44 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian;GrandMoM;Clint N. Suhks
"There EdReform posts the following quote...

EdReform quotes an example of the kind of filthy,twisted pornographic reading material mainstream homosexual groups such as GLSEN and PFLAG have made available to middle and high school-aged kids in the public schools. Parents who I've spoken with are shocked to learn that such material exists for kids that age.

For those who missed the thread - decide for yourself:

GLSEN Encourages Teens In Anal SEX "Don't give up."

227 posted on 03/25/2002 3:21:15 PM PST by EdReform
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To: EdReform
You could have posted a link and given a description of the material ... I thought Gramma was about to bust a gasket.
228 posted on 03/25/2002 3:23:42 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
....how ovservant you are-NOT.

....why don't you try reading the intire post?

"Advice offered to teenagers in Young, Gay and Proud!....I'll repeat that in case you missed it

*Advice offered to teenagers in Young, Gay and Proud!*

229 posted on 03/25/2002 3:25:53 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: ConsistentLibertarian;EdReform
filthy,twisted pornographic reading material mainstream homosexual groups such as GLSEN and PFLAG have made available to middle and high school-aged kids in the public schools......I don't think we have to remind him again.

I'm sure he probably READ the books!

230 posted on 03/25/2002 3:33:32 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: Cultural Jihad
Time magazine is running an article by a gay priest who was a convicted pedophile. It was interesting because the man described himself as a homosexual who never matured past adolescence and so was attracted to children that age. He said that he entered the priesthood to escape a girlfriend who was pushing marriage and that he just stayed in and found that he was good at working with kids. And that's where the trouble began. He said he knew that it was wrong but that he couldn't stop or didn't stop himself until someone reported him. (He did, however confess his sins to another priest in another parish).

Anyway, it is an interesting story. It reinforces my premise that alot of the homosexual/pedophile priests entered the priesthood to runaway from their homosexuality.

231 posted on 03/25/2002 3:35:02 PM PST by Eva
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To: GrandMoM
Earth to Gramma. I read that.
232 posted on 03/25/2002 3:35:55 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: GrandMoM
Actually I find FR much more economical. People post extracts and articles and I can search and browse and learn as I go. Momma homeschooled me until we got to partial differential equations and then she had to punt. So I never got the middle school "anal sex is good" lecture until EdReform posted it.
233 posted on 03/25/2002 3:38:46 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Don't blame your momma for your problems, unless she drop kicked you in the head!


234 posted on 03/25/2002 3:43:48 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: GrandMoM
Are you angry? You seem angry. If you're upset you could log off and watch a soap or read Reader's Digest or pray for President Bush or something like that and come back later. If it was the "Earth to Gramma" line that put you off, that's my bad. I watched Zoolander last night.
235 posted on 03/25/2002 3:47:17 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
....go away little person, I relish my time and commenting to you is a waste of it.

....bye bye or should I say ta ta?

236 posted on 03/25/2002 3:51:14 PM PST by GrandMoM
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To: Jimmy Valentine
But this title is much funnier, because it's the exact opposite of the thread's argument...
237 posted on 03/25/2002 3:52:15 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Regardless of what God let Abraham or Solomon do, His commandment to us on the matter is clear. And remember, He can command as He pleases.
238 posted on 03/25/2002 3:58:32 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage
"He can command as He pleases." OK. But if it's nothing more than a fetish on His part, who cares?
239 posted on 03/25/2002 4:01:17 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Cultural Jihad
I fully understand your point but do not agree with it one bit.

Evidently you don't understand it.

Sometimes we see arguments eschewing any use of police force against many such crimes and misdemeanors. "Do you want to go so far as murdering someone who smokes crack?! 'Cause that's just what will happen if the crack smoker refuses to comply with the police: they kill 'im! You want that?! You prepared to do that?! To go that far?!" It's really a non-argument. Smoking crack, as an example, is not an automatic death-by-cop sentence.

My point was about force, not death. Moving things back to the topic of the thread, laws against sodomy involve punishments, right? So you're talking about kidnapping or fining a sodomite. These not only have to be enforced by force, they are force. Since sodomy isn't a crime, but a different kind of sin, force against a sodomite is a crime of its own.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions, as conservatives believe. Only whiney liberals try to excuse every evil act as the supposed fault of society somehow.

I know that you exist in a half-hallucinogenic fog at all times and try to make allowences, but this is silly. Have I blamed society for anything, let alone homosexuality? In fact, the one blaming society for it is you, by making it society's fault for not punishing it.

240 posted on 03/25/2002 4:16:20 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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