Homophobia and Pedophilia -- Joined at the Hip

Recent reports | 3/24/02 | HMV

[Calculus_of_Consent]

It's one thing to be aware of your own appearance. It's another to assume that everyone who is sexually attracted to persons of your gender wants to jump you

If you could see me you wouldn't say that.

[ellery]

A chickenhawk is a kind of pedophile, and as such, should fry. My question is why one segment of the pedophile universe should be singled out in horror, as if same-sex pedophilia is more disgusting than opposite-sex pedophilia.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

Would Mary Kay Laternou go for your boy?

[Dimensio]

Even the ones who don't like blue eyes or the ones who prefer people their own age?....probably.

And your reasoninging for this assertion is...?

[Texas Mom]

Homo-Phobic. ( Homo-MAN Phobic- Fear of) I am not afraid of men and will not use this word which was invented by gays, who were looking for a word to discribe anyone who opposes their life style. It has been used as a put down for anyone with any moral opposition to the gay agenda.

[ellery]

HA! Made me laugh. I love when someone injects humor into the debate -- reminds me to climb down from the soapbox:-)

[Dimensio]

If you could see me you wouldn't say that.

Well, I have met one person who has a bizarre effect of "charming" anyone he meets into finding him desireable to some extent -- even those who don't like him (by reputation or his personality) suddenly realise that they're attracted to him without proper cause. It could be pheremones, it could be something else -- it's an effect much like "Mary" in "There's Something About Mary" had. Are you saying that you have a similar condition?

[Oschisms]

Of course, they don't think to take account that the majority of male molesters of boys have far more victims than molesters of girls (the stats for the former showed the latter as well, though I didn't see any speculation or reasoning as to why molesters of boys have more victims).

Thank You for helping me bolster my argument. The (heterosexual) men who molest girls have fewer victims. In fact, they usually molest their own children. As dispicable as that is, policing that harshly would involve giving more power to the Bureau of Child Services. The (homosexual) men who molest boys have no children and therefore seek out others. There is a greater risk of capture involved in molesting someone you can't control 24-7. Therefore, they have to seek out new targets, in public. This is easier to police, as one can do background checks for homosexuality for careers in professions that involve children, such as teachers or clergy.

[Calculus_of_Consent]

It's one thing to be aware of your own appearance. It's another to assume that everyone who is sexually attracted to persons of your gender wants to jump you.

Seriously, I suppose there are some Homosexuals who whould not want to sodomize me, just like there are some normal heterosexuals who would not like to sleep with Brittny Spears. There just arn't many.

[ellery]

Not to mention the fact that the gay lifestyle is characterized by rampant and wanton promiscuity. The average gay has sexual encounters with hundreds of men each year, most of them complete strangers. It is the sordid truth of the sick lifestyle that it is. But watch ellery come out and squirt some more "homophobe" ink to try to cover it up.

Thanks -- you made my point, Kevin. The minute you start tying homosexuality and pedophilia into a single package, the conversation goes off into the gay lifestyle, and the PROBLEM OF PEDOPHILIA IS BURIED.

By the way, I am not condemning anyone for their beliefs on homosexuality, one way or another. We should be free to honestly and sincerely differ without getting snippy about it:-)

[Oschisms]

No, we're comparing 1-5% of the population to 95-99% of the population. That is a somewhat larger difference than a decimal place.

[LarryLied]

While pedophiles are also heterosexuals

An angle never mentioned: all boys who are molested (well 99% and the other 1% doesn't care) are molested by homosexuals. Stop them and you have taken the threat of molestation away from one half of the population.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

You think 99% of gay men are pedophiles? For that matter, you think 1-5% of heterosexual men are pedophiles? Sounds high to me, but maybe I'm just optimistic.

[Dimensio]

Like I said, I didn't see reasoning or even speculation for the numbers. The numbers for girl molesters was in the 30s while boy molesters had it over 100. There could be any number of explanations for it, including that girl molesters are likely to have children of their own. There's also the possibility that molesters of girls get caught sooner (through suspicion of others or the girls themselves being more willing to talk) or that it might not be as easy to get into a position where one could have easy access to young girls as there are with young boys.

In any case, that molesters of boys tend to have more victims should be taken into account when consdering the ratio of homosexual to heterosexual molesters -- many times people point to the number of victims, but with skewed victim ratios you get skewed results. If it isn't the case that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, then where is the inherent danger to be considered in hiring them?

[Dimensio]

Seriously, I suppose there are some Homosexuals who whould not want to sodomize me, just like there are some normal heterosexuals who would not like to sleep with Brittny Spears. There just arn't many.

If you have an on-line pic, I can show it to some homosexual friends of mine. I can get you an answer within 24 hours.

[ConsistentLibertarian]

Don't give up. We're making progress clarifying the points at issue. "Man should be with woman." I didn't know that covered anal sex. You're totally OK with anal sex so long as its between a man and a woman? If anal sex is OK, why do you suppose it matters to God who's doing it? I mean, I could see if God thought that the equipment could only be used a certain way, but if that's not it, why the distinction?

[concerned about politics]

Homosexuals are mutants with an anal bile fetish. They walk by an outhouse and they get an erection. They should work at sewer plants. They'd never have to buy lunch.

[Oschisms]

If it's one homosexual for every 99 heterosexuals, it's slightly less than 1 order of magnitude.