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Court Sides With Co. in Labor Dispute (Illegals don't have the same rights as Americans)
AP ^ | March 27,2002 | Gina Holland

Posted on 03/27/2002 3:11:53 PM PST by healey22

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as Americans when they are wrongly fired from U.S. jobs.

The court split 5-4 on whether companies can be forced to give back pay to illegal workers when they mistreat them on the job.

"Awarding back pay to illegal aliens runs counter to policies underlying" federal immigration laws, Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist wrote in the court's opinion.

The Bush administration had argued that penalties are needed to keep employers from wronging illegal workers, considering the estimated 7 million undocumented workers in the United States.

U.S. citizens are entitled to back pay if wrongly fired. The National Labor Relations Board said Jose Castro, even though he was an illegal worker, was owed nearly $67,000.

Castro, a Mexican national, lied to get a job at a California plant and then was fired after trying to start a union.

Rehnquist said the employer in the case, Hoffman Plastic Compounds Inc., can be subject to "significant other sanctions" including a requirement that it prominently post a notice to employees about their rights.

Justice Stephen Breyer (news - web sites) said Hoffman was guilty of "a crude and obvious" violation of the labor laws. The $67,000 penalty, he said, "reasonably helps to deter unlawful activity that both labor laws and immigration laws seek to prevent."

Joining Breyer were Justices John Paul Stevens (news - web sites), David Souter (news - web sites) and Ruth Bader Ginsburg (news - web sites).

The Supreme Court has already ruled that undocumented workers are protected by federal labor laws. Justices said that did not entitle them to back pay "for wages that could not lawfully have been earned and for a job obtained in the first instance by a criminal fraud."

Castro used a friend's identification to get a a minimum wage job operating a plant blender at Hoffman's plant in Paramount, Calif. He and three other employees were laid off in 1989 after they supported efforts to unionize the plant. He did not speak English, nor did half of the other plant workers, according to court records.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia sided 5-4 with Castro, who was fired for handing out union cards to fellow employees.

The Supreme Court's ruling overturned that.

The case is Hoffman Plastic Compounds v. National Labor Relations Board, 00-1595.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: illegalaliens; supremecourt; workerrights

1 posted on 03/27/2002 3:11:53 PM PST by healey22
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To: healey22
Castro used a friend's identification to get a minimum wage job

How does someone working at minimum wage accumulate $67,000 in backpay? Even at $6.00 an hour, it would take over five years with total income being withheld to amount to $67,000.
2 posted on 03/27/2002 3:41:18 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: healey22
The Supreme Court has already ruled that undocumented workers are protected by federal labor laws. Justices said that did not entitle them to back pay "for wages that could not lawfully have been earned and for a job obtained in the first instance by a criminal fraud."

The logic of this decision seems twisted. A pleasant surprise but twisted logic.

3 posted on 03/27/2002 4:05:49 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: travis McGee
ping
4 posted on 03/27/2002 4:35:13 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Tancredo Fan;dennisw;Sabertooth;Uncle Bill;Brownie74; Bill;PRS;boston_liberty;sarcasm...
fyi
5 posted on 03/27/2002 4:39:28 PM PST by healey22
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To: healey22
I agree. PING
6 posted on 03/27/2002 4:52:46 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: healey22
The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as Americans when they are wrongly fired from U.S. jobs.

OMG! I had to read that sentence three times in a row to make sure it actually said what I thought it said. Could it really be true that there is SOME shred of common sense left in this country???

7 posted on 03/27/2002 4:53:05 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: TomGuy
How does someone working at minimum wage accumulate $67,000 in backpay? Even at $6.00 an hour, it would take over five years with total income being withheld to amount to $67,000.

The guy was fired in 1989. That's 13 years of back pay....

8 posted on 03/27/2002 4:55:07 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: Amerigomag;healey22
The Bush administration had argued that penalties are needed to keep employers from wronging illegal workers...

I guess it depends on what the defination of "is" is.

According to my understanding of The Federal Immigration and Nationality Act, Section 8 USC, it is illegal for a company to hire illegal aliens. So if that is true, how can Bush possibly argue his case that "penalties are needed to keep employers from wronging illegal workers"?

I don't understand it!!


9 posted on 03/27/2002 5:24:22 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: TomGuy
How old was the lawsuit?
10 posted on 03/27/2002 6:06:35 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Brownie74
I don't understand it!!

Nor do I. It's unbelievable.

11 posted on 03/27/2002 6:45:13 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: healey22;starfan;firebrand;racebannon;exit 109
immigration bump....
12 posted on 03/27/2002 6:53:01 PM PST by Dutchy
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To: healey22
I think the company should be fined the same amount for hiring the illegal in the first place!
13 posted on 03/27/2002 7:13:21 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Dutchy, sarcasm
The Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that illegal immigrants do not have the same rights as Americans (when they are wrongly fired from U.S. jobs).

Call me a simpleton but I would have put a period after the word Americans. I was quite surprised to learn that the SC already ruled that undocumented workers are protected by federal law. If the Supreme Court doesn't comprehend the meaning of ILLEGAL, who do we turn to?

What's frightening is that the decision came very close to going the other way, emphazing the immediate need to appoint Conservative Judges.

14 posted on 03/27/2002 7:45:08 PM PST by StarFan
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To: StarFan
I was quite surprised to learn that the SC already ruled that undocumented workers are protected by federal law.

All that means is that they must be paid a fair wage for work performed. If they are cheated, they must be paid as ordered by the court. They can collect on their way to the airport where they will be returned to their country of origin.

15 posted on 03/27/2002 7:58:18 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Tancredo Fan
Proving that Bush, who is alleged to be a man of 'principle', used an unprincipled argument before the court in defense of illegal behavior, and got their nuts cut off for advancing such a ridiculous argument.

Understand that this was definitely a policy approved from the top, one that the Solicitor General was forced to make for political purposes.

16 posted on 03/27/2002 8:10:48 PM PST by Regulator
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To: McGavin999
Thanks my friend.
17 posted on 03/27/2002 8:43:08 PM PST by StarFan
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