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Bush Signs McCain-Democrat Campaign Finance Bill; Republicans File Suit
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| March 28, 2002
Posted on 03/27/2002 4:03:29 PM PST by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
This I actually agree with...my Congresscritters are Schumer, Clinton, and Houghton.
None of them are worth the spit I just ejaculated when typing their names here, Houghton more typically votes with the other two scalawags than not from the House side.
Worse, in this particular state, you're more likely to have a liberal, former democrat, run on the Republican ticket with Republican GOP support than a conservative anywhere.
To: Howlin
What he doesn't realize is how the "secret signing" affected the legislation.
To: rightwing2
I wanted so badly to like Bush and support him...Hmmm.
Like I told you, Bush hasn't betrayed his republican and conservative supporters, nor has he taken them for granted either. While several of Bush's recent forays into political gamesmanship, have upset and confused some in his conservative base, I believe the vast majority of his supporters have had a measured response. Some, like yourself, have over reacted. I think very few conservatives were expecting Bush to initiate across the board conservative policies, with total disregard towards the loyal opposition. To think otherwise, is being naive in my book.
Ronald Reagan understood, that as President, he would never get his full conservative agenda passed through the Congress, 100% intact. This is something that President Bush also understands, but you, obviously do not understand. Compromise and negotiation are a major part of any president's game plan. This is especially true, when you consider, that at best, only 1/3rd of the American electorate, identifies themselves as politically conservative.
This charge that Bush is a liberal republican, is utterly ridiculous and without merit .
So you can exoriate those republicans and conseravtives who disagree with you, all you want, if that makes you feel better. However, the more you attack Bush and his supporters, for not agreeing with you, the more you look weak and petty.
To: Maelstrom
You're supporting Bill Clinton because he's a Republican.Wow! Only a libertarian could come up with such convoluted nonsense.
To: Reagan Man
Look, if your momma supported the same broken laws Clinton did, you'd still support her, just like you support Bush now. The only reason you opposed Clinton was because he was a Democrat...that's the position you articulated, live with it, retract your support.
It isn't twisted, it's an explanation of how emotional and absent principles your position actually is...it's been noted by other posters with different wording and you still don't get it.
To: Reagan Man, Howlin, Reagan Man, sonofliberty2, scholastic, OKCSubmariner
Ronald Reagan understood, that as President, he would never get his full conservative agenda passed through the Congress, 100% intact. This is something that President Bush also understands, but you, obviously do not understand...This charge that Bush is a liberal republican, is utterly ridiculous and without merit.
Sure, Bush is not a liberal. Rather he is a consumate bipartisan centrist and by definition does not hold fast to any particular princples liberal or conservatives, but rather has a centrist mix of both. What you fail to understand is that Bush is not a conservative and never has been. Sure I supported him because I wanted him to be a good President but I never was under any delusion that he was a conservative. The truth is that I started with very low expectations for his Presidency. I thought he would be only somewhat better than Gore. Then, I fell prey to the anyone-but Clinton syndrome. Certainly, after Clinton he seemed like a breath of fresh air and during his first few months he performed better than I expected.
However, Bush's action in signing the Democrat Incumbent Re-Election Act is so destructive of the conservative cause and so eviscerating for the Republican Party as to constitute an Armageddon for us (Republicans) again something you fail to understand. This is not merely amnestying two million illegal aliens. Its not just supporting federal funding for harvesting of stem-cells from aborted babies. Its not just supporting Clinton's Amerikorps program. Its not merely appeasing Communist China with $100 billion a year in US trade surplus money to enable it to build itself into the best superpower enemy money can buy and providing them with supercomputers 50-100 times more powerful than those sold under Bill Clinton during the Chinagate scandal. Its not just passing Ted Kennedy's bill which federalizes the public education system. Conservatives have fought against all these Bush initiatives for years if not decades. This is nothing short of Armageddon for the Republican Party!!! Why some Bush backers fail to understand this and try to excuse and justify this away when it is so much worse than anything else Bush has done (other than implementing the unilateral disarmament of 75% of our remaining strategic nuclear deterrent) is completely beyond me.
As Buchanan said in his book, Death of the West, "this is how it all ends." It is not an end I, a lifelong member of the Republican Party, would have chosen. When this bill is implemented, the Republican Party will be finished for all time as a majority party. If you were a committed Republican and not merely a Bush backer, this fact would concern you a bit more. For me, having a Republican majority in Congress for the first time in sixty years has been a very welcome and cherished historical moment which I have worked to prolong. Bush has now destroyed my hopes of so doing.
To: rightwing2
Ah, now you've done it; quoted Pat to me.
Please remove me from your ping list.
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posted on
03/28/2002 5:42:44 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: TLBSHOW
Well, let the snookering begin!
I'm hoping you are right in your thoughtful input. Thanks.
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posted on
03/28/2002 6:52:15 PM PST
by
harpo11
To: rightwing2;Texasforever;harpo11
Hell the entire bill could be thrown out
BUMP
Read why the majority opinion of the Supreme Court found that party expenditures were independent of the candidate, and thus not covered by legislative caps, but rather entitled to First Amendment protection
Learn more about the landmark decision that rejected portions of the Federal Election Campaign Act claiming that it violated the First Amendment.
Campaign Finance Supreme Court Cases link here
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posted on
03/28/2002 7:03:40 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: rightwing2
There are libs on the Court, but it is not a liberal Court overall. They helped Bush into office, or did you forget? I still think that the CFR will prove wholly unacceptable on a strictly Constiututional basis. If I'm wrong, then the Republic is really in trouble. P.S. The no profanity rule is still in effect.
To: sonofliberty2
You are probably right in most cases. Thanks for the ping. Regards.
To: rightwing2
An eloquent and thoughtful commentary. Keep up the good work.
To: Paulus Invictus
Does anyone honestly think that a court, that has ruled restrictions on flag burning, the recent bill aimed at pornography on the web and not allowing the display of Christ in a jar of urine are violations of the 1st amendment, will not rule against this bill as well?
To: HalfIrish
If you are half-Irish, what is the other half? I am half-Irish and half-Ukrainian.
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posted on
03/28/2002 8:57:58 PM PST
by
RamsNo1
To: Texasforever
I met an admirer of your's on another thread, today. He was a chip off the ol' block. He stopped short though, of telling me to take my rope and go home. This freeper admired your sharp, quick wit and the substance you add to your commentary. Too bad that both of you don't remember that there is supposed to be a "new tone" to the debate in DC and in the country in general since Bush got in the white house. I think that Bush would be sadly disappointed in both of you for the lack of a kinder, gentler tone with your opponents.
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posted on
03/28/2002 9:08:47 PM PST
by
RamsNo1
To: rightwing2
You should have quit while you were ahead. I warned you about those anti-Bush rants. This latest diatribe shows how deep rooted your hatred for the President is and has convinced me, beyond shadow of a doubt, that you
never supported President Bush.
Bush is not a liberal and repeating such a lie, doesn't make it true. So far, Bush has shown himself to be a consumate conservative politician, in the mold of Ronald Reagan.
President Bush has promoted a conservative agenda. Here's a short list of his main accomplishments in a mere 14 months.
* has provided remarkable leadership in time of war
* secured passage through Congress of a $1.35 trillion tax cut
* has proposed the largest increases in military spending since Reagan
* opposed the Kyoto protocol
* disposed of the ABM Treaty
* eliminated taxpayer funding of overseas abortions
* has openly and strongly supported Taiwan
* made no deals for release of the EP-3 plane crew from Red China
* secured initial funding for a NMDS
* has promoted increases in off shore oil drilling
* has strongly advocated drilling in ANWR
* pushed for building more nuclear power plants
* campaigned to reduce our dependency on oil imports
* repealed many last minute Clinton EO`s
* campaigned for partial privatization of Social Security
* offered faith-based alternatives to traditional welfare
* stopped funding for further destruction of human embryo's
* has nominated conservative judges to the federal bench
* returned honor, dignity and trust to the Presidency
This isn't the record of a liberal, or a moderate. It is the record of a principled and pragmatic, mainstream conservative, who understands how to get the job done. Is it a perfect record, absolutely not. What the President wants, what I want and what the majority of conservative-republicans want, is political unity, not unanimity. With a slim majority in the House and Democrat control of the Senate, its impossible to win on every issue. Sometimes compromise and negotiation is the only viable alternative, for achieveing a partial victory on certain issues.
Bottom line, in poll after poll, American's continue to give the President high marks for his leadership, his honesty and for his strong integrity and personal character. His approval ratings have been in the 80% range. These high poll numbers, are mainly attributed to his successful handling of the war effort, but on individual issues, Bush has been very successful promoting his conservative policies, so far.
You can spin all you want, but your lies and distortions are obvious to anyone paying attention.
To: Reagan Man
President Bush had done alot of good even before 9/11 and after 9/11 but there are those of us who need to remind Bush that we are out here and what we expect of our elected officials. I would say that this website is a great way to vent our opinions just as you vent your's. We all have the right to do it at least for the time being.
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posted on
03/28/2002 9:21:03 PM PST
by
RamsNo1
To: Howlin
Ah, now you've done it; quoted Pat to me. Please remove me from your ping list.
Certainly. Your reply is proof positive that you are no conservative and probably never were. Not like I couldn't tell from your comments defending Bush's evisceration of the Republican Party this week which prove that you are not a real Republican.
To: Paulus Invictus
There are libs on the Court, but it is not a liberal Court overall. They helped Bush into office, or did you forget? I still think that the CFR will prove wholly unacceptable on a strictly Constiututional basis. If I'm wrong, then the Republic is really in trouble. P.S. The no profanity rule is still in effect.
Yes, they voted to uphold the election since every single recount went Bush's way. How could they have done otherwise. If they had not done so, they would have plunged the country into constitutional chaos. However, "not a liberal Court overall?" Aren't we talking about the same court that found state and federal bans on partial birth aborton/infanticide to be constitutionally impermissable??? The Republic is in trouble all right and we have Bush to thank for it. There was no room for error or excuse on this.
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