Another Defeat for Women - Abortion-Breast Cancer Debate

Pro Life Infonet ^ | March 29, 2002 | Pro Life Infonet

[Saundra Duffy]

From: The Pro-Life Infonet Reply-To: Steven Ertelt Subject: Judge Rules for Abortion Facility in Abortion-Breast Cancer Case

Source: Pro-Life Infonet; March 28, 2002

Judge Rules for Abortion Facility in Abortion-Breast Cancer Case

Fargo, ND -- Fargo, ND -- After more than three days at trial in state court, Judge Michael McGuire ruled in favor of a North Dakota abortion facility that distributes information stating there is no link between abortion and breast cancer.

Ruling from the bench, Judge McGuire relied on trial testimony from those who deny a link between abortion and breast cancer -- despite testimony presented by expert witnesses showing evidence for the link.

McGuire asserted that it was reasonable for the abortion facility to rely on preeminent cancer research institutes, such as the National Cancer Institute and the American Cancer Society, neither of which have acknowledged that there is an established link between abortion and breast cancer.

Pro-life advocate Amy Jo Kjolsrud filed a false advertising lawsuit against the Red River Women's Clinic abortion business for information contained in the brochures

You can send your comments about the case to:

Michael O. McGuire, Presiding Judge; East Central Judicial District; Cass County Courthouse; P.O. Box 2806; Fargo, ND 58108-2806; 701-241-5680; 701-241-5709 Fax

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[Saundra Duffy]

You use the sound-bite, "junk science". Hmmmmmmm. Now I know where you're coming from, bud. "Junk science" is what the abortion industry calls Dr. Brind's findings. If you tell a lie often enough, people start to believe it - stupid people, that is.

[Saundra Duffy]

If only I were computer literate, pal.

[elfman2]

I strongly suspect that women who have abortions are more likely to have less self-discipline. On average, they're less likely to follow strict religious or secular disciplines. Therefore, it's reasonable to believe that they smoke more and drink more and do drugs more often than women who refuse to have premarital sex. I bet they don't even exert the discipline to exercise as regularly or eat well as women who refrain from premarital sex. And if they don't protect themselves during sex, they probably don't protect themselves around dangerous chemicals.

Hmmm… if it's not the abortions, what could be causing their increased risk of breast cancer?

[proud to be breathing]

Nor does the proven link between barbequed meat and certain cancers, most animal fats and heart disease, alchohol and a myriad of health problems, etc, etc. deter many people from indulging in these things. I'm going to BBQ up some ribs tonight, knowing full well the that the I am increasing my chances of colon cancer somewhat, even if infinitesemally.

[nickcarraway]

These characters are about as likeable as Steve Buscemi and William Macy in the movie Fargo.

[steenkeenbadges]

Lib women want their abortions. Facts, common sense and ordinary caution cannot dissuade them from killing the living evidence of their selfish and irresponsible behavior. As the cancer link becomes irrefutable, they'll go screaming to the same judges that protected their homicidal rights - they'll claim the courts did not "warn them of the danger".

[elfman2]

" Elf, Thanks for showing the class what defines 'junk science'. You may go back to your seat now."

Hmm,… I point out that why women who have abortions are probably a fairly separate social group with different behaviors from those who don’t, and you make a dumb a~s remark and say it defines junk science.

Thank you for your example here of projection, denial and dishonesty newbie. You only discredited yourself.

[jlogajan]

I'm am sorry for you (in a sympathetic way.) But the fact is you guys want so badly for there to be some deterimental consequences to the woman's health that your advocates will conjure up bad science to find it.

I'm not sure why you care that abortion mothers are getting sick anyhow, since they are all murderers to you anyhow -- they're going to burn in hell for eternity. What's a little breast cancer?

Face it, you are trying to scare them with self-interest rather than convincing them that abortion is murder and wrong in its own right. You are diluting your message, excusing the "perpetrators of murder", engaging is wishful thinking (bad science searching for a pre-ordained conclusion) and condemning those so afflicted to the permanent hell fires anyhow.

Such is the emotionalism of religiosity. You don't want a judge deciding these issues anyhow, you want a holy see.

[BlackElk]

Probably because they debunked nothing and the two you are talking about are, I assume, the STUDENT in that field and her husband. What they did was reiterate the information that supported their pre-existing prejudice on the subject. Face facts. A lot of people in this country have been involved in abortion and have a vested interest in denying reality not only as to the humanity of the unborn but as to the potential consequences to themselves. Does that debunk your claim? The thread to which you refer also had many medical journal articles posted in support of the link between abortion and breast cancer.

[BlackElk]

That is to say the STUDENT in thatfield and her husband who is not in that field and posted many times as to what his wife had told him. She posted briefly and inconclusively as I recall and he was a typical pro-abort know nothing.

[BlackElk]

Finally, with a name like Maguire, this dim bulb in black robes probably had Catholic ancestors and is therefore an affront to those of us who still practice the faith.

[Saundra Duffy]

Hmmm… if it's not the abortions, what could be causing their increased risk of breast cancer?

Heck of a good question.

[Saundra Duffy]

No doubt, women will continue to choose abortion, even after finding out the truth about the link. But many will choose to be more cautious with their future health. And many will decide NOT to take the chance in the first place. Any way you look at it, the information is important. Consumers have a right to access to as much info as humanly possible.

[Agamemnon]

There is also a link between useing the "pill" and breast cancer.

Be correct. The linkage is between use of the pill, when combined with smoking tobacco; there is not at this time any substantial evidence linking only use of the pill to breast cancer.

[Saundra Duffy]

you guys want so badly for there to be some deterimental consequences to the woman's health that your advocates will conjure up bad science to find it.

My Mom died of cancer. I have had two bouts with cancer. I want people to be able to protect themselves in every way possible. Information is a life saver. How dare you say the things you did. Abortion hurts women. Women are dying from breast cancer. How can you say those things?

[Saundra Duffy]

You don't want a judge deciding these issues anyhow, you want a holy see.

I'm a Mormon.

[Saundra Duffy]

Thanks. Info on the ABC Link can be found at www.AbortionBreastCancer.com. For victory & freedom!!!