Posted on 04/05/2002 5:01:35 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
Don't look for members of the Southern Baptist Convention at Howard Johnson hotels.
The Southern Baptist Convention announced it is urging its members to avoid the hotel chain, after CNSNews.com reported that one St. Louis Howard Johnson is hosting a sex bash for devotees of bondage, caning, flogging, and whipping. Those are just a few of the "alternative" sexual practices headlining the event.
The three-day "Beat Me in St. Louis" seminar - sponsored by a sex club called St. Louis Leather & Lace - is taking place at the Howard Johnson's Lambert International Airport franchise on April 26-28.
The Southern Baptist Convention plans to meet in St. Louis two months later, on June 11-12.
In an April 4 announcement, the Southern Baptist Convention said it was "parting ways" with Howard Johnson Hotels because of the Leather & Lace sex bash.
"The SBC has canceled its block of rooms at Howard Johnson and will recommend that Southern Baptists find alternative lodging during the June 11-12 annual meeting. Furthermore, the SBC said it does not feel comfortable recommending other Howard Johnson locations for future meetings," according to a report from the Baptist Press. (See Baptist Press article)
Jack Wilkerson, vice president of business and finance at the SBC Executive Committee and convention manager, told hotel officials about the convention's decision in an April 4 letter.
"Howard Johnson Hotels have historically supported the traditional family and solicited family business, but the current environment and philosophy has made an apparent shift dramatically against that position," he wrote.
"It is extremely unfortunate that your hotel and parent corporation has chosen this departure, which is a direct attack on the fabric of traditional family values and the Biblical heritage of our denomination and its churches," he added.
Southern Baptists who already have made reservations at Howard Johnson hotels in the St. Louis area will get help in finding other quarters, Wilkerson said.
The convention is expected to book as many as 4,000 rooms in the area for its June convention, and it's not clear how many of those rooms would have been at Howard Johnson hotels.
The Baptist Convention is the nation's largest Protestant group.
St. Louis Leather & Lace bills its seminar as an "educational pansexual event dedicated to the free expression of alternative lifestyles and forms of loving."
Membership in the club "is offered only to those individuals who have shown a genuine commitment to the BDSM (bondage, discipline, sadism and masochism) lifestyle and who will contribute positively to the group."
Do I really want to know what that is?...i didn't think so.
This group reserved the location and is paying the fee. It is NOT open to the public and will not be going on in the lobby for all to see. Howard Johnson did not solicit them.
The Baptists are free to contract with any facilities they like, just as "Leather & Lace" is. And they are free to boycott any business they want. I will not be boycotting HoJo.
Modern Language Association strikes again. These perverts are driven by pure hatred of humanity, and seek to degrade everything they touch.
Whatever unlisted action you may disagree with the Baptists about, your subsequent words show that you are supportive of their right to boycott the hotel chain for their pandering to immorality.
As i support the people at boycott-republicans.com's right to boycott what they want. I don't have to agree with them or join their boycott.
If Howard Johnson's wants to solicit the business of a pervert convention, that's their business but they should expect the consequences - just like S&W and United Way. But, they shouldn't expect decent people to just accept their morally unacceptable corporate stance and continue to frequent their motels.
No more HoJo for me, until they renounce their stance. There are other places to stay which don't promote such activities.
Doesn't that have somting to do with farries? The song "When you Wish upon a Star" comes to mind. Mary Martin? Nah!
And I disgree with the claim by the SBC that HoJo is "hosting" this function. For HoJo to be "hosting" this convention they would have to be paying for and promoting the convention. I would venture to say that "leather & lace" is paying for this through ticket receipts.
If ignorance is bliss, then I'm a happy man.
Maybe they beat each other silly with cast iron frying pans. What else could they do with them....umm....never mind. I haven't a clue.
Puleeaze!
It is possible they didn't directly "solicit" this convention, but surely they knew right away what was involved when they accepted the business. Maybe "aided and abetted" would be a better description?
And I disgree with the claim by the SBC that HoJo is "hosting" this function.
HoJo is having it in their hotel. No doubt they are providing the rooms, food, drinks for the merrymakers and parking spaces for the ambulances. They will have a nice sign in their lobby directing the way to the festivities. Their on-site staff will no doubt be involved in the set-up and planning. They will get stuck with the clean-up. And they are getting paid for all this.
If that isn't "hosting", I don't know what is.
I wonder how you and some others here would react is some large organization started a national boycott of companies and facilities that the SBC patronize.
Whats good for the goose...
Well, it used to be, sort of. Now one hosts these things or gets trashed by the homos through their own boycott. I guess there is less danger and chance of damage and injury when the boycott is by the SBC instead of the homo/sado crowd, eh??
HoJo is a business in the business of making money. "Hosting" this convention is going to do just that for them.
Right. And Arafat is just "hosting" suicide bombers for a fee from Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia. It's only money, right?
One can "make money" doing a whole lot of things, and a lot of the Big Money is made on the immoral side. If all HoJo is after is filthy lucre, they can have their convention and enjoy the results of their decision - and the money, if they make any. Simple greed is not a very impressive argument for deep-sixing your hard-earned reputation, which HoJo has tried over the years to build.
I wonder how you and some others here would react is some large organization started a national boycott of companies and facilities that the SBC patronize.
One could make a good case that the facilities of the SBC are already boycotted by a good many people. You will find many of them at HoJo's St. Louis Leather and Lace Convention.
I however, will not be listening to the SBC or looking to them for advice on who I should patronize.
I hope their members don't find out about all the "horrible sexual devience" that has occured in the hotel rooms that they are going to stay in.
If I had a choice, I would rather live in a communist country than a theocracy.
It would be far easier to defeat and overthrow a government based on an ideology and gain freedom than it would be to do the same with a government who claims that its authority is from god.
And if I had a choice, I would rather live in a free, Constitutionally controlled country than either of the above! And freedom includes boycotting those with whom you may disagree.
As for your worry this country will become a theocracy, well, your dread may already have been mostly fulfilled! Secular Humanism is the reigning religion here now. Political Correctness is it's Commandment. The current Law is it's enforcement. The Theocracy of Communism is still alive and well on college campuses and in the Media, but not much elsewhere - but it is cleverly masked with Liberalism and Secular Humanism, enough to make it a real danger. The only other dangerous theocracy on the horizon is Islam, which will do everything in it's power to prevail and impose it's wishes by it's own law.
If you are worrying about a Christian Theocracy, you are worrying up the wrong tree! That's a Liberal Shibboleth! The real danger lies elsewhere for America.
Thanks, SBC, for the warning.
Went to the SBC convention last year. Personal viewpoint, the SBC is even being overrun by moderates. I don't much look to what they're doing either
That said, it seems certain that the hotel chain will take a beating on this one. It would be tied up in litigation until it reached the end of its rope.. It even might have to post a bond.....
Yep. Government is the largest 'business' of all...
Ok. No doubt you're correct. However, the most in-your-face ones seem to be the homosexuals. They seem to be the ones most insistent one agrees with or publically tolerates their preferences. If done in private (like most sex) there probably wouldn't be much further discussion. After all, sex happens every night at HoJos, and one never hears any complaints about it!
Although most SM afficiandos keep it in their closeted out of fear of reprisal from an intolerant religious-right, especially those in high officies such as priests and politicians and CEOs.
An awful lot of coded buzzwords there, Bub. Most people I know are repelled by this sort of behavior, and most don't fit in any of your narrow categories.
I'm sure most major opponents of this are close-minded people who are no doubt jealous that they themselves aren't as uninhibited as these folk at Hojo.
Close-minded? I suppose that includes all who don't celebrate such goings as "normal". No doubt the publicly "uninhibited" display of their sexual behavior does have something to do with the burgeoning opposition.
And the remainder are just bible-thumping prudes who think sex is just plan EVIL.
Why do you say "bible-thumping prudes" think sex is evil? I know a lot of "bible-thumping prudes". NONE of them think that! Where do you get that silly idea? It's just not true. However, they do think sex practised outside of marriage is an evil because it is condemned by the Bible. Is that what you mean?
Children should learn more about what sexuality is, but since most americans are terrified by it an know very little about anything other than missionary sex
Is this a plea for the normalization of pedophilia? Besides, I'd wager most Americans who are against this know a lot more about sex than just the "missionary" kind. Their problem seems to be against the public display and promotion of it. Certainly there is widespread objection to sexual exploitation of children.
well, obviously that bias will stick with their children as the grow up and become the mean people on this forum.
Hmmmm. Mean People? Why are we mean people? Is it because we want to see a minimum public decency maintained for ourselves and our children and you don't like being thwarted in your quest to normalize it?
I wonder how many people bashing this event actually enjoy sex? ..hmm... i would guess very few.
I would bet,... most.
This is a good thing.
This is hardly my idea of sex. This sounds more like a bash suited for LEOs in Singapore.
Pronunciation: (pan-sek'shOO-ul), [key] —adj.
1. Psychiatry.pertaining to the theory that all human behavior is based on sexuality.
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