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Four of 60 priests trapped in Church of the Nativity released (Villagers Disappeared?)
Ha'aretz ^ | 4/05/02 | Amos Harel, Ha'aretz Correspondent, and agencies

Posted on 04/05/2002 12:10:43 PM PST by kattracks

An initial breakthrough was reached in negotiations that took place Friday between IDF troops and Palestinians holed up in the Church of the Nativity in the West Bank town of Bethlehem. Four of the sixty priests that had been held by those fortified in the church were released.

Franciscan officials in Rome offered to mediate in the standoff between IDF troops and the armed Palestinians, who have been holed up since Tuesday inside the Bethlehem basilica built on the traditional site of Christ's birth.

The Israeli troops are under orders not to invade with force and have been calling on the some 250 gunmen inside to surrender, but the men continued to resist Friday.

The situation at the complex, which includes the Church of the Nativity, was "very grave," the minister-general of the Franciscans, the Reverend Giacomo Bini, told reporters. "We have 40 brothers and over 200 armed Palestinians. The brothers have shared their food but it is now running out, and we appeal to be allowed to leave the church to go and get supplies."

Bini said the Franciscans' top representative in the Holy Land, the Reverend Giovanni Battistelli, is willing, together with other local religious leaders, to "mediate talks between the two groups - the Israeli soldiers besieging the exterior of the basilica of the Nativity and the over 200 Palestinians who have taken shelter in the monastery."

He also said that he had written to U.S. President George Bush "to ask him to ask Sharon to stop and to start a dialogue."

"We need people to lay down their arms but those in the church will not lay down their arms if they see those outside still have guns," Bini said.

Asked if the Israelis had destroyed a door to the courtyard, as gunmen and others inside the church had said, Bini replied: "They did destroy the door the same way the Palestinians destroyed a door trying to get in."

The IDF has denied the claim, saying soldiers did not make a move on the shrine.

Bini said there had been shots fired into the courtyard but no Israelis had entered the complex.

The standoff began Tuesday when the fighters, who had been battling advancing IDF troops, dashed to the church for refuge.

Besides the 40 Franciscan brothers, in the basilica complex there are four nuns and some 30 Orthodox and Armenian monks.

"Our brothers are tired psychologically and physically," Bini said, stressing, however that the Franciscans are not abandoning the place.

Before the violence, Bethlehem was a popular pilgrimage town. One of the most famous pilgrims was Pope John Paul II, who celebrated Mass in Manger Square, just outside the basilica, two years ago. He called Bethlehem "the heart of my pilgrimage."

Five Italian journalists, who were inside the complex when the Palestinians poured inside, were evacuated Wednesday in a convoy of armored cars with diplomatic plates.



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What happened to the 100+ villagers who were reported to be in the Church?
1 posted on 04/05/2002 12:10:43 PM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I think its amazing that every report about this says the poor palestinians are "taking refuge" or "are trapped" in the church when in fact they are

HOLDING HOSTAGES!

Taking refuge my &^%$! I hate the media.
2 posted on 04/05/2002 12:14:31 PM PST by epluribus_2
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To: kattracks
I never heard there were "villagers" in the church: another Reuters invention, perhaps?
3 posted on 04/05/2002 12:14:38 PM PST by browardchad
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To: kattracks
If they had no weapons, the IDF probably let them leave.

The terrorists only care about keeping the Christian clerics hostage - the villagers would have been useless for that purpose.

In any case all the news stories are inexact and maddening! Is it 40 priests or is it 40 brothers?

4 posted on 04/05/2002 12:16:32 PM PST by wideawake
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To: kattracks
My question exactly. I count 74 clergy - who are the rest which make up 200? If they are Palies, why didn't the gunmen let their own people go?
5 posted on 04/05/2002 12:16:32 PM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: kattracks
It takes a village to raise a church
7 posted on 04/05/2002 12:20:18 PM PST by NorseWood
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To: right_to_defend
Same reason it hasn't been reported that yesterday Hizbollah beat three UN observers so badly with rifle butts that they had to be hospitalized. I saw it at the very bottom of a news report, and then never again. Can you imagine the outcry if the Israelis beat up UN observers? But evidently it's okay if the terrorists do it. I am convinced that fear of terrorism is holding the whole world hostage and leading normally sentient beings to appease for all their worth. It's maddening.
8 posted on 04/05/2002 12:24:29 PM PST by ellery
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To: wideawake
I agree that both the quality and quantity of news from Bethlehem are unsatisfactory. But based on what I've seen, I don't believe the Palestinians are seeking sanctuary in the customary sense. They may actually be hoping to provoke an outrage by the IDF. I don't interpret this as a hostage situation either. Most of these Christians probably want to remain in the church, to protect it.
9 posted on 04/05/2002 12:25:50 PM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I agree.
10 posted on 04/05/2002 12:27:17 PM PST by wideawake
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To: NorseWood
It also takes a village to raze a church.....
11 posted on 04/05/2002 12:27:50 PM PST by tracer
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To: kattracks
Why would they need 60 priests in one church? A case of too many chiefs and not enough indians.
13 posted on 04/05/2002 12:29:17 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: kattracks
60 + 240 was the report....no villagers

Total 300 +/-

14 posted on 04/05/2002 12:34:05 PM PST by bert
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To: dc-zoo
Why would they need 60 priests in one church? A case of too many chiefs and not enough indians.

They may have been pilgrims, not residents.

15 posted on 04/05/2002 12:46:59 PM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: tracer;NorseWood
Make that - It takes a village muslim to raze a chuch...
16 posted on 04/05/2002 12:53:47 PM PST by SpottedBeaver
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To: Romulus
They may actually be hoping to provoke an outrage by the IDF.

I wouldn't be surprised if they murdered some of the hostages and blamed it on Israel. There's no way that the Israelis would be so stupid as to fire on the building, or attempt a forcible entry - the whole world is watching, and they have enough PR problems (why, I don't know, but they do).

17 posted on 04/05/2002 12:53:52 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: right_to_defend
Well, my hope is that we will decisively best world terror organizations despite the contemptible appeasers in Europe's governments and in the UN....
18 posted on 04/05/2002 1:01:12 PM PST by ellery
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To: right_to_defend
The whole world has gone MAD all right, it's called FEAR! The terrorist Bastards are gaining BIG TIME by terrorizing countries! Hell it's working in Israel, Arafart and his cronies will get the GRAND PRIZE, stathood, because of their terrorist actions! If we don't teach these bastard a lesson, we are in BIG DOO-DOO!!
19 posted on 04/05/2002 1:08:41 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: right_to_defend
Can someone please explain to me why the WHOLE WORLD is in denial? This is like some big bad dream.

They are. The western lefties are in a tizzy since 9/11, their anti-American constructs challenged, in Europe the realization of future civil wars forced into their smug minds. Along with their leftist agendists hiding under the cover of "reporter", they've found something familiar to lash out about and protest their moral superiority by comparison. All reporting on the issue should basically be reclassified to the opinion pages.

They fear the death of multiculturalism, anti-Americanism and anti-Westernism. Russia no longer helps them with propaganda and money. What to do? Blame the Jews.

The Arab governments are relatively sane.

20 posted on 04/05/2002 1:40:11 PM PST by Shermy
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