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Bill Would Put Indiana On Daylight Saving Time
CNSNews ^ | 4/9/02 | Jim Burns

Posted on 04/09/2002 11:17:21 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Most of the country has now "sprung forward," adjusting their clocks for daylight saving time that will be in effect for the next six months.

But parts of Indiana do not adjust for daylight saving time, and one member of Congress thinks its time to change that.

Rep. Julia Carson (D-Ind.) plans to introduce legislation in the House this week that would place her entire state on daylight saving time. She said the lack of uniform timekeeping has caused much waste and confusion for both businesses and families alike in the Hoosier State.

"It is past time, it is over time, for Indiana to move ahead with the rest of the country. This is not a political issue. This is an issue that benefits the citizens of the state of Indiana," said Carson in a statement.

Her opponent in the November election, Republican Brose McVey, joined Carson in calling for the state to move to daylight saving time. He praised Carson's initiative, saying a uniform time zone would improve the way of life for Indiana residents.

At present, 47 states move their clocks ahead one hour in the spring and set them back one hour when daylight saving time ends in the fall. Hawaii, the Eastern time zone portion of Indiana, and the state of Arizona do not adjust their clocks.

Parts of Indiana are in the Central time zone, while the rest of the state is in the Eastern time zone. Most of the state, but not all of it, stays on Eastern Standard Time year-round.

Carson's bill would force the state legislature to take action on fast time. Under her bill, Indiana's time zones would remain intact, but the whole state would adopt daylight saving time in April 2004.

One Indiana state legislator, Chet Dobis, a Merrillville Democrat, told the Indianapolis News that what Carson should do is "just put us all into the same time zone, the Central time zone."

An opinion poll done by the U.S. Department of Transportation found that Americans like daylight saving time because there is more light in the evenings. DOT studies have also found that daylight saving time cuts electricity usage by a significant amount.

However, many Americans oppose daylight saving time. Many complain that changing clocks and adjusting to a new sleep schedule are inconveniences.

The idea of daylight saving was first conceived by Benjamin Franklin during a trip to Paris in 1784.


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1 posted on 04/09/2002 11:17:21 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection;khepera
Get's my vote, it drives me crazy to try to keep up with the rest of America!
2 posted on 04/09/2002 11:19:49 AM PDT by wwjdn
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Now the Federal Government is going to give a State the time of day?
3 posted on 04/09/2002 11:20:58 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
4 posted on 04/09/2002 11:21:08 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Julia would do better to mind her own business.

It irritates me every time that woman opens her mouth.

5 posted on 04/09/2002 11:21:29 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: wwjdn
No way. We are one of the only parts of the nation to not surrender to this insanity. I will vote against any politician who supports this. We don't need Daylight savings time.
6 posted on 04/09/2002 11:22:57 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Interesting - What business does a Federal legislator have over the State's internal issues? According to the Indiana Constitution, does the State bow to her authority in the Federal government at all?

I'm curious as to how she proposed this legislature, and where. If she put it in the Federal Congress, then I'm befuddled as to how she thinks that she can do this (other than her being a Dumbocrat). If she proposed it in the State Legislature, though, then I guess some other legislator in the State House was _really_ the person who introduced the bill?

This is rather interesting...

:) ttt

7 posted on 04/09/2002 11:24:17 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
If people in Indiana knew what time it was, it would take half the fun out of being a Hoosier. Let's do it the Indiana way, and let each county decide for itself ....
8 posted on 04/09/2002 11:25:51 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I've always suspected Julia the Simple would have trouble adding or subtracting one from any given number.
9 posted on 04/09/2002 11:26:03 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Carson's bill would force the state legislature to take action on fast time.

How can US Congress dictate to a sovereign state's legislature what laws to pass?

10 posted on 04/09/2002 11:26:56 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: mysterio
I can't believe the Republican against her is supporting this. He should have made this an issue to beat her with.
11 posted on 04/09/2002 11:27:06 AM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: detsaoT
The story on her site

It really DOES look like this dolt is proposing this in the Federal Congress. In that case, I'm at a loss for words. I think somebody in Indiana ought to start looking at recalling this dunce who doesn't understand the core tenets of Federal Republicanism...

:) ttt

12 posted on 04/09/2002 11:27:21 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: detsaoT
You don't really think Julia's mind is complex enough to grasp the difference between Federal and state law, do you?
13 posted on 04/09/2002 11:27:43 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Indiana time is great. . . it's our special little privelage. . . as if Indiana is so great we get's our very own time zone. . .
Plus, I'm too lazy to change my dumb clock.
14 posted on 04/09/2002 11:28:10 AM PDT by dubyas_vision
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To: Semper Paratus
How can US Congress dictate to a sovereign state's legislature what laws to pass?

Two dollars says interstate commerce. Three to one its 'for the chirren'.

15 posted on 04/09/2002 11:29:41 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Dakmar
You don't really think Julia's mind is complex enough to grasp the difference between Federal and state law, do you?

Beats me, I'm not in her district (much less her state), so I haven't paid any attention to her in the past.

To all Hoosier Freepers here, if any of you are in her district (10, I believe), I suggest getting on the horn to explain the subtle differences between a centralist Democracy and a Federal Republic to her and her idiot staffers...

:) ttt

16 posted on 04/09/2002 11:29:46 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Indiana is sort of between both time zones, so it's not a big deal that they don't go on it. And why should the feds care?
17 posted on 04/09/2002 11:31:20 AM PDT by Koblenz
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The idea of daylight saving was first conceived by Benjamin Franklin during a trip to Paris in 1784.

I believe that it was enacted by Richard Nixon.
18 posted on 04/09/2002 11:37:48 AM PDT by LetsRok
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
" "It is past time, it is over time, for Indiana to move ahead with the rest of the country. This is not a political issue. This is an issue that benefits the citizens of the state of Indiana," said Carson in a statement. "

She released a statement because, given her history , she couldn't make a public statement to save her life.

A brief overview:....she sponsors a bill for trigger locks, when asked on a local radio show if she has ever seen or operated one she replies.....uuuuhhhhhggghh,....no

When asked about her vote on impeachment....she repilies, on another local radio show.....( paraphrasing) I have no real knowledge of the constitutional requirements and will defer to those in the PARTY who do and vote accordingly.....translated, I had over 6 months to learn or be briefed on the constitution and just didn't take the time to actually understand it.

Now close to election time she gets press by using a true non issue for federal government..state time.

This woman is a stooge and basically a place holder for the dems in this seat, she is in fact, still Andy Jacobs stooge much as she was when she worked for him.Why any thinking individual votes for this ignorant rep baffles me.

19 posted on 04/09/2002 11:38:00 AM PDT by Kakaze
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To: wwjdn;DAKMAR
I don't want to keep up with the rest of America. I vote NO!
20 posted on 04/09/2002 11:46:53 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Khepera
I don't want to keep up with the rest of America. I vote NO!

Heck, with the rate the "rest of America" is succumbing to "progressives" and socialism, I'd give you a medal for your stance. Then I'd move to whichever state you happened to represent.

Progressive politics will be the death of us. (though I'm not sure that Daylight Savings Time would qualify as such "progressivism"...)

:D ttt

21 posted on 04/09/2002 11:51:25 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Actually, Daylight Saving Time should be dumped by everybody else, not adopted by Indiana or Arizona. DST sucks and is outdated.
22 posted on 04/09/2002 11:51:30 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: detsaoT
Excluding a few, she truly represents her constituency. Indiana has become a mess. The state politics are a disaster, too. I'm waiting for O'Bannon to declare an emergency because of high gasoline prices. Oh, wait. He's not up for re-election soon, so there won't be an emergency. Silly me.
23 posted on 04/09/2002 11:52:17 AM PDT by Samwise
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To: Khepera
As my grandfather said "Daylight savings time is the work of the devil and the Communists who both want the people to grow fat and lazy basking in the sun until late in the evening."
25 posted on 04/09/2002 11:54:06 AM PDT by log_cabin_gop_boy
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To: detsaoT
Indiana is my state of residence, I was born here. We need to keep our time zone as it is and toss out the perverted progressive liberal scum as well.
26 posted on 04/09/2002 11:54:10 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: mysterio
We don't need Daylight savings time. I don't see that any of us do. Why not split the difference and be done with it. Blackbird.
27 posted on 04/09/2002 11:56:09 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: Khepera
Indiana is my state of residence, I was born here. We need to keep our time zone as it is and toss out the perverted progressive liberal scum as well.

Welp, I'm not partial on the former, but if you accomplish the latter, you might end up with a new neigbor.

FReegards,

:) ttt

28 posted on 04/09/2002 11:56:47 AM PDT by detsaoT
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To: log_cabin_gop_boy;*SASU; JMJ333; Tourist Guy; EODGUY; abandon; Khepera; Dakmar; RichInOC...
Yes and homosexuals are perverts. We need to lock up perverts.
29 posted on 04/09/2002 11:57:06 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: detsaoT
Tell it to log cabin GOP boy.
30 posted on 04/09/2002 11:58:01 AM PDT by Khepera
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I've lived in both Arizona and Indiani, the lack of daylight savings sucks. How can one be content with being two hours out of touch with nearby states?
31 posted on 04/09/2002 11:59:43 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: LetsRok
I believe that it was enacted by Richard Nixon.

No -- I believe Nixon put us on "double daylight saving," but regular daylight saving started earlier. I'm not sure when, maybe WWII?

Personally, I've never seen the advantage to having most of the country experiencing artificial jet lag twice a year. I don't much care which way they go -- just choose one and stick with it.

Dave Barry wrote that the origin of daylight savings was the result of a bunch of gov't employees betting some others they could get everyone on the country to change their clocks together.

32 posted on 04/09/2002 12:02:13 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Rep. Carson should be made aware that through the seeming magic of computers, anyone smart enough to use one can figure out what time it is wherever they might be.

Then again, it's possible she is not smart enough to use a computer.

Did I say "possible"? I meant "probable".

33 posted on 04/09/2002 12:02:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Two hours? We are now on the same time as Illinois. In winter we are on same time as Ohio.
34 posted on 04/09/2002 12:04:06 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Khepera
Tell it to log cabin GOP boy.

Got better things to do with my time, I'm afraid. Besides that, I don't enjoy starting flamefests, either.

Now, if we want to argue the role (or lack thereof) which the Federal Government plays in DST, or in time zones in general (does the Federal have an oversight of time zones at all?), that would make for an interesting conversation, indeed!

:) ttt

35 posted on 04/09/2002 12:07:34 PM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Semper Paratus
Where have you been? They do it everyday. They did it with speed limits, with drinking age, and recently with DUI rules among a slew of other initiatives. Congress' right to 'regulate interstate commerce' far exceeds what was intended by the constitution.
36 posted on 04/09/2002 12:08:15 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Kakaze
This woman is a stooge and basically a place holder for the dems in this seat, she is in fact, still Andy Jacobs stooge much as she was when she worked for him. Why any thinking individual votes for this ignorant rep baffles me.

Carson is Indiana's contribution to the Sheila Jackson-Lee wing of the Democrat Party. Her district contains such a large segment of the non-thinking, dependent class that her re-election is assured. She is part of the price we pay for the sins of the past.

37 posted on 04/09/2002 12:15:54 PM PDT by DoctorHydrocal
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To: LetsRok
No, Nixon did not originally enact daylight savings time. He signed legislation the brought us year-round daylight savings time. Parents objected to it because the sun came up too late in winter, and their kiddies had to go to school in the dark.
38 posted on 04/09/2002 12:17:19 PM PDT by stillonaroll
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To: LetsRok
Franklin Roosevelt, actually. Which is why we Hoosiers want nothing to do with it. In Indiana, we just get up earlier in the summer; most chickens can't tell time anyhow.
39 posted on 04/09/2002 12:18:55 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: mysterio
It's great to have the sun well above the horizon in Indiana at 5:00 am in the summer. Who can think of a better time to mow the lawn or play nine holes of golf before work? Who needs more sunlight in the evening after leaving the office at 5:30 pm?
40 posted on 04/09/2002 12:25:17 PM PDT by DoctorHydrocal
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To: Khepera
Yes and homosexuals are perverts. We need to lock up perverts.

Excuse me sir, first of all I have been a devout Catholic my entire life secondly have been in a monogamous relationship for 32 years. During my life as a Catholic and committed partner I have raised two adoptive children who are now successful college students. Not only have I been in a committed relationship most of my life and raised two wonderful boys, I have worked with the Republican Party and raised as well as donated over 100k for GOP Candidates in Texas and California.

Now, if more people conservatives would commit to their partner for life, adopt children, send the children to private schools, support the GOP through fundraising, and commit their lives to their church, America would be a much better place.

The things my partner and I have done were not easy but we followed our faith.

As for the topic at hand I agree with my grandfather's statement about daylight savings time being a Communist plot and the work of the Devil. Look at America since the passage of DLST.

41 posted on 04/09/2002 12:28:32 PM PDT by log_cabin_gop_boy
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To: log_cabin_gop_boy
Excuse me sir, first of all I have been a devout Catholic my entire life.

Ah Hahahahaha Hoo boy. This is truely fantastic. You need to follow Gods word. You are obviously Apostate. I'm sure there are some good Catholics in the church but seems many of them are apostate. Does the Pope go along with your openly sinful ways. Does he endorse it? If I where them you would be excommunicated. I'm sure most criminals do some good things in their lives but that is no reason to let them escape justice. Don't worry about all that other happy horse apples stuff because God will spew you out.

42 posted on 04/09/2002 12:36:59 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: log_cabin_gop_boy
As opposed to capitalists basking away in the early morning sunlight?
43 posted on 04/09/2002 12:38:42 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: SoDak
Where have you been? They do it everyday. They did it with speed limits, with drinking age, and recently with DUI rules among a slew of other initiatives. Congress' right to 'regulate interstate commerce' far exceeds what was intended by the constitution.

Very true. But were not all of those things enacted through extortion. The Feds threatened to withhold various funds if the states did not toe the line.

Not one state had the balls to stand up and say, 'We don't want your steenking money!'

44 posted on 04/09/2002 12:45:13 PM PDT by Grit
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To: log_cabin_gop_boy;khepera
A devout Catholic homosexual? I know many Catholics who would find your comment offensive and I KNOW it is AGAINST GOD's Will and His WORD. Are your son's normal or homosexual also?
45 posted on 04/09/2002 12:48:16 PM PDT by wwjdn
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I live in AZ, lack of DST is no big deal. Means you've got to rearrange your thinking when it comes to sports broadcasts but that's about it. And we're never two hours off from near states. All that really happens (on a functional level) is that when DST hits we switch from being in the Mountain time zone to the Pacific. 6 months of the year we're even with New Mexico and one hour ahead of California, the other 6 we're even with California and one hour behind NM.

On the plus side we don't have to change the clocks twice a year. And you get to make fun of people. The sign clock at Precision Oracle (used car dealership northside of town (Tucson)) DSTed, so they're one hour ahead, that's funny.

46 posted on 04/09/2002 12:52:21 PM PDT by discostu
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To: stillonaroll
"-----, and their kiddies had to go to school in the dark."

I remember reading of some accidents, and at least one death because of the darkness when the kids were either going to school, or waiting for a school bus.

47 posted on 04/09/2002 1:26:29 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: detsaoT
I think somebody in Indiana ought to start looking at recalling this dunce who doesn't understand the core tenets of Federal Republicanism...

  I think that you're off on this one, I'm afraid. The ability to set weights and measures is one of the powers granted Congress in the Constitution. I believe that time falls under the definition of a measure.

  As it stands, Congress does set some standards for daylight savings time. While they permit each state to decide whether or not to use DST, if the states choose to use it, Congress sets a uniform date on which every state goes on and off it. As I stated, this is one of the powers that is explicitly granted in the Constitution.

Drew Garrett

48 posted on 04/09/2002 1:38:30 PM PDT by agarrett
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
As tired as I get every six months (still recovering today) I vote the rest of America catch up with Indiana and Arizona.

What chumps we are.

Shalom.

49 posted on 04/09/2002 1:41:42 PM PDT by ArGee
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
How is it we must follow the crowd? The road to ruin is wide I say take the narrow road to salvation. Not that its sinful to adjust the time. Its just that I can't remember how to adjust my watch.
50 posted on 04/09/2002 1:59:29 PM PDT by Khepera
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