Posted on 04/16/2002 8:54:13 AM PDT by history_matters
It strikes me that you are not particularly well informed about mainstream Protestantism. Which churches are you including?
Clearly, the earlier rules regarding bishops point to a republic-style election rather than 50.1% democratic election.
For what it's worth, he is supposed to have the inside track on getting Archbishop Rembert Weakland's job in Milwaukee. How....appropriate.
I also agree. Dulles is either out of touch with what's really going on, or he's in denial.
He said,
I suppose every individual case is terrible...
I SUPPOSE???!!!! I KNOW is more like it. Nothing like making lite of the problem.
...but it is not something peculiar to the Catholic church.
So What! It shouldn't be happening in the Church, especially to the degree that it is.
It is time to clean house of the actively homosexual clergy...and there's a bunch of them.
The major problem, IMO, is that bishops are not accountable to anybody but Rome. They also, in many cases, had DAs and prosecutors in their pockets and were able to, in effect, pay hush money to keep these scandals from blowing up much earlier.
If that's fine with some people, then they ought to demand that the Pope severely deal with the guilty. Otherwise, he's complicit in his inaction.
I would also like to know how much of this was known by the Vatican and how far back. Fr. Thomas Doyle, one of the authors of a study on priestly pederasty back in 1985 that was virtually ignored by the bishops, said Rome was kept regularly informed of many of the more egregious cases.
It is time to clean house of the actively homosexual clergy...and there's a bunch of them.And they hang together like ... bananas.
Sorry -- not in this life.
I don't have as much admiration for him. If he was worth his weight, he would bring to light the huge homosexual problems he's got right there at Fordham. He should start by exposing Paul Halsal; who's a resident fruitcake and super-radical gay activist prof. But I don't think Dulles is up to it.
I'm better informed than some. Protestant denominations have "voted" to allow contraception, abortion, homosexual marriage, ordination of homosexuals, etc. These decisions have been "democratic" decisions at synods worldwide. What else can you call it but defining doctrine by democratic vote, when the foundation stone of doctrine is private interpretation of scripture and rejection of any teaching "authority" by the church?
If he was worth his weight, he would bring to light the huge homosexual problems he's got right there at Fordham.Ain't it the truth.
Keep in mind that his friary is in the archdiocese of New York (isn't it?) so he probably has to be careful what he says in public. I tend to think he's in a lot less denial than he's able to let on.
What would the consequences of that be? If their ordinations were invalid, then every sacrament they performed would be invalid as well, correct? How could any Catholic ever be certain, then, that his child had been validly baptized?
In the Archdiocese of Chicago, if the priests voted for a bishop they'd be fighting over Rembert Weakland with Milwaukee.
Even the priests can't be trusted to choose bishops.
Never mind the fact that they have all challenged Rome for years regarding women in the priesthood, wreckovating our Catholic sanctuaries, asking for popular assent to the naming of bishops, and reducing our liturgies to banalities of music and prayer.
Isn't it ironic that the very same American Catholics - religious and laity -- who kept popping up in our God is Dead media to dissent from any ties to Roman and Roman Catholicism -- who just yesterday called Pope John Paul II and Roman Catholicism retrograde and non-progressive -- are the very ones now appealing to Rome to fix their self-made problem with the caveat that Rome can "help" make "suggestions" for a regularly scheduled June National Conference of American Catholic Bishops!!
Meanwhile I pray for the souls of all these apostates. Our Roman Catholic Faith will never be deterred. I want a thorough purging. The Body of Christ has suffered enough from disobedience and apostasy.
It is spring cleaning time -- for our homes, our country, our church and our souls.
Jesus Christ told us "We are Easter people. Jesus Christ promised us -- "The gates of hell will not prevail."
You reject historical fact because it is found in a newspaper NOT named THE WANDERER.
Easier said than done, I'm afraid. If my memory serves me correctly, Gregory is the first Black bishop to be chosen as head of the NCCB.
Even the priests can't be trusted to choose bishops.Can the cardinals can be trusted to choose the bishop of Rome?
No, I reject historical fact because it will not work. It figures NCR would claim it would.
DITTO.
....and all the future settlements plus ones in the pipeline are enough to start circling the wagons.
....and any admissions at this point only make the trial attorneys involved salivate more.
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Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, has said that "This is not s homosexual problem."
If he really said that (can you source it for me?) this man is either too stupid or too dishonest to continue in his position.
It was the Catholic League president William Donohue who said: It is important to emphasize that it is simplistic and diversionary to argue that gays are the problem.
Very weird.
The US Bishops will probably not like to seize the bull of clerical sodomy by its horns, but I hope the Holy Father will help them out to have the courage to fight the good fight. Perhaps the revelation of a Polish homo archbishop (not a pedophile though, just a "perfectly normal" homo) and the subsequent termination of his office was a good thing :-)
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