Understood, but I'm not sure that's what sinkspur had in mind. In any event, the optimal elecitors -- 4th century Milanese, led by a little child -- are not available, and I'm not sure how we're to find our way there from here. Culture does evolve, but not in discontinuous leaps.
"The whole world groaned, and was astonished to find itself Arian."
Of interest to me was the last word given to Lucifer, who, although acknowledging his "defeat," looked rather ominously to the future:
I must, however, make a confession, because I best know the character of my party, and own that they are more easily conquered than convinced.