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Is This The Real Noah's Ark, Found At Last? The Mystery Of The "Ararat Anomaly"
TooGood Reports ^ | 4/15/02 | Isaiah Flair

Posted on 04/16/2002 12:12:59 PM PDT by Good Tidings Of Great Joy

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To: tortoise
I have always been intrigued by the number of people, language and country names in the area that have a phonetic similarity to the name Ararat: Ur(of the Chaldees), Iraq, Iran, Arabia, Armenia, Urdu, Aram(Syria), Arad, Arcadia, and of course Aryan. There are many more. I don't know if this is a racial memory associated with Ararat or if it is just a popular phoneme. Of course Ireland, Argentina, and Uraguay just confuse the issue!
41 posted on 04/16/2002 1:47:40 PM PDT by limitedgov
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To: Okiegolddust
Don't leave your cake out in the rain!
43 posted on 04/16/2002 2:24:44 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Good Tidings Of Great Joy
I can't help but think any ark would have been scavenged for parts long ago. Those cut timbers would have come in handy to the first couple of generations out of the ark.
44 posted on 04/16/2002 3:13:45 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: RightWhale;LostTribe;Good Tidings Of Great Joy;RikaStrom
"The flooding of Euxine Lake may have been impressive, but would it splash a boat 2.5 miles up onto the side of a mountain?"

Not a chance. Let's go from another angle. If the Mediterranean Ocean was blocked at Gilbraltar during the Ice Age it would have likely dried out quite a bit and have had a greatly reduced water level for perhaps thousands of years.(Many communities/cities would have been built on the shore line). If and when the water broke through the 'plug' at Gilbralter (there is scouring on the ocean flood to support this idea) it would have begun a slow flooding of the coastal communities of the Mediterranean ocean.
There would have been thousands (maybe millions) of refugees streaming all over the place escaping their flooded coastal cities.
Word would have reached Noah that the whole world was flooding. At some point, the plug at the Bosporus would have blown and began to create even more panic and refugees and certainly confirmed the reports and rumors of a catastrophic flood.

Noah, in his wisdom, could see that the Black Sea was rising at one foot per day and probably estimated the height at which he had to begin to build the Ark (big, big,ship) so that he could complete it before the rising water reached the building site.....and that's why it's way up on the mountain. The water never reached it because the Black Sea and the Mediterranean reached equilibrium with the waters of the worlds oceans.

Another possibility is that Noah could have started building the Ark when reports of flooding in the Mediterranean began to arrive. The flooding of the Mediterranean could/would have changed weather/climate patterns and created the 'forty days and forty nights' of rain story recorded in the bible and an explanation for all the flooding that was apparent.

45 posted on 04/16/2002 3:16:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: RikaStrom
"The possibility in that region is supposed to be fairly high for that sort of activity, avalanche/earthquake stuff."

I would think that the higher up, the less the avalanche activity just because it would be colder. I'm thinking that the seasonal margins would see the most activity.

46 posted on 04/16/2002 3:27:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: Junior
If it's Noah's ark, I'll eat my hat.

This one? Watch out. It's spicy. But if not spicy enough for you, you can add this:

Bon apitite!

47 posted on 04/16/2002 3:35:56 PM PDT by mc5cents
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To: RikaStrom
I am more than slightly curious...and the fact that that area is known for it's brilliant rainbows is awe inspiring to me.
48 posted on 04/16/2002 3:48:34 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: lexcorp
Did I ever tell you about the idea that the flood occurred on another planet, probably Mars, a long, long time ago, and the Ark was an interplanetary ship carrying the survivors to earth?
52 posted on 04/16/2002 4:24:00 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: lexcorp
As a Christian I don't believe the Ark was a fable at all but I also don't think there is much chance of any of it still surviving. So what? Christianity is based on faith and although having the ark around would be great, not having it doesn't have any effect on Christian faith in God and His Word.

I firmly believe that even if the remains of Noah's Ark were discovered and proven beyondf a shadow of a doubt to be authentic, no atheist or agnostic would change their mind. Not one. You either have faith - or you don't. Physical proof of one bible account, important as it is, would not sway those who wish to reject God, Christ and the bible. It would be argued about for centuries and the 'O.J. defense' would probably dominate.

Yes, the ark is real and thousands of years old but how we know it's THE ark in the bible? Maybe it's some OTHER ark from a later time....and so on, until the Lord's coming. Let it go, folks.

53 posted on 04/16/2002 4:38:12 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: lexcorp
you may be a rocket builder or even a rocket scientist but you don't know squat about archaelolgy...do you?
54 posted on 04/16/2002 4:43:45 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: blam
Hey blam!, remember the frozen man found on a mountain... how many years old was he?...he was in excellent shape.
55 posted on 04/16/2002 4:45:24 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: ruoflaw
he was in excellent shape.

Except for the arrow through the lung and the fact that he was dead, he was in good health generally.

56 posted on 04/16/2002 4:47:13 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: lexcorp
"More likely is that the Noah fable is simply a retelling of earlier flood stories (such as in Gilgamesh), with the old serial numbers scraped off."

The Gilgamesh story was the same Black Sea flood story.( told by two different groups of people) It is informative to know that the whole area at this time was very arid except right along the coast of this freshwater lake. When it was flooded with saltwater, this created thousands/millions(?)of refugees who fled in all directions and especially up the river valleys and on into Mesopatania(sp). Some think these refugees are the carriers of agriculture all over Europe. Also, linguists have traced the origins of all Indo-European languages to this region. This was a traumatic and memorable time for many, many people.

57 posted on 04/16/2002 4:47:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: lexcorp
Never pass up a simpler solution, son.

I was pointing out the obvious problems with the assumption that the site on Mt. Ararat was a likely candidate for being the resting place of the biblical ark; it is clearly a poor candidate (at least as far as finding any evidence is concerned). I'm pretty agnostic about the whole thing, and tend to go with the Gilgamesh plagerism theory as being the most probable.

58 posted on 04/16/2002 4:56:32 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: ruoflaw
"Hey blam!, remember the frozen man found on a mountain... how many years old was he?...he was in excellent shape."

Noah's Flood was a couple thousand years before the Iceman. (He may have been a descendent of some of the refugees?)

Oetzi, The Iceman

59 posted on 04/16/2002 4:58:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
>The Gilgamesh story was the same [ ... ] flood story.( told by two different groups of people)

Yep, I think so too.

60 posted on 04/16/2002 5:00:14 PM PDT by LostTribe
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