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To: Ancient_geezer;action america;taxman;pigdog;bigun
Can you guys think of any way to abolish the IRS?
4 posted on 04/18/2002 8:42:36 AM PDT by Principled
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To: Principled

Can you guys think of any way to abolish the IRS?

Quit paying their salaries maybe?

Like in repealing the income, payroll and gift/estate tax statues then defunding the IRS, as John Linder (R Texas) offers in his comprehensive bill to kill all income and payroll taxes outright, and provide a revenue neutral replacement:

H.R.2525
SPONSOR: Rep Linder, John (introduced 07/17/2001)
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.

See these websites for more details and to help get it enacted:

http://www.fairtax.org & http://www.salestax.org

7 posted on 04/18/2002 9:18:16 AM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: Principled
Yeah, I can.

Every concerned citizen here at FR who supports MASSIVE TAX REFORM needs to be at as many Congressional Town Hall Meetings as possible and PUBLICLY ask your congresscritter something like the following:

"Except for a brief period surrounding the War Between the States, for America's first 126 years – statistically, perhaps the most prosperous and free period in our history -- we funded the legitimate and Constitutional functions of government with INDIRECT taxes on consumption. For our first 126 years we held to the tax system the Founders intended here. Explain to these good folks why you (do/do not -- as the case warrants) support MASSIVE TAX REFORM which would REPLACE the UNFAIR and INCOMPREHENSIBLE income tax with a PAPERLESS, FLAT, FAIR tax and rid us of the most dangerous agency in government today, the IRS?"

Remain at the mike and DON'T LET HIM GET AWAY WITH THE OLD POLITICAL TRICK OF ANSWERING ANOTHER QUESTION.

IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE UNFORTUNATES WHOSE CRITTER DOES NOT HOLD PUBLIC MEETINGS OR ASKS YOU TO SUBMIT QUESTIONS ON CARDS (SO HIS STAFF CAN THROW OUT THE TOUGH ONES!), YOU NEED A NEW CONGRESSCRITTER!

You have accomplished several important goals with your question:
You’ve put the congresscritter on notice that he is dealing with that most dangerous constituent. One with and actual functioning BRAIN;
You’ve let HIM know that YOU know about the alternative to the system he will – despite the soothing noises he may make in public at the end of the day – fight like a cornered animal to save as he knows that the tax code is the source of most all of his power to social engineer, reward his pals and punish his enemies;

And -- MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL – you have just EDUCATED YOUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN THE AUDIENCE, MANY OF WHOM WILL WANT TO KNOW MORE. Be sure you bump them to a TAX REFORM WEB SITE (www.votr.org comes to mind).

A few thousand of us doing this on a regular basis will send 'em the desired message. When Newt was my representative, he LOVED this question (NOT!). Johnny Isakson – his anointed successor – loves it almost as much (NOT!)

I’m open to ANY suggestions to strengthen this sucker. I’ve tried to hit the following elements:
1. A little HISTORY. Most Americans think we’ve had the damn income tax FOREVER. They need to know we have not.
2. An emphasis on the CONSTITUTIONAL aspects of government. Most Americans don’t think about THIS one either.
3. The word “unfair” connected with the income tax is a key hot button term according survey results. They’re probably correct.

Unless you live in a district populated by brain dead, lethargic former residents of the old Soviet Union, if you’ve never been applauded for anything else in your life, this question should get you some (and perhaps even a few whistles and a little foot-stomping as well.

GO GET ‘EM!

10 posted on 04/18/2002 9:46:37 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Principled
Can you guys think of any way to abolish the IRS? I'm not one you pinged but, HR2525 comes to mind, NRST. Blackbird.
17 posted on 04/18/2002 1:28:15 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST
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To: Principled
Can you guys think of any way to abolish the IRS?

A long line of trees and some rope would be a good start. Or maybe we should go back to the days when the entire society viewed tax agents (collectors) as scum of the earth, deserving only misery and loneliness.

18 posted on 04/18/2002 1:33:17 PM PDT by fogarty
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To: Principled
"Can you guys think of any way to abolish the IRS?"

Get a Libertarian candidate to re-introduce the Flat Tax, and National Sales Tax debate into the 2004 Election rhetoric.

20 posted on 04/18/2002 1:40:58 PM PDT by Destructor
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