Seminaries Source of Scandals in Catholic Church

TCRNews.com ^ | April 19, 2002 | John Burger

[Ann Archy]

Are you a Catholic?

[Mike Fieschko]

The priests here in my area that were pedophiles were respected

Which ones in Kentucky and which parishes, Sparrow?

[Ann Archy]

Amen! Don't let Homos be priests and don't let the homos be Boy Scout Leaders....it's NO different. It's like a Fox in a hen house.

Homosexuality and the acceptance of it will be our downfall along with abortion.

[Zipporah]

Sparrow?? Just look in the Kentucky Post.. Covington Diocese. Are you attempting to call me a liar? How pathetically sad.

[Mike Fieschko]

Sparrow??

Zipporah = sparrow (or a small bird) in Hebrew.

[PLK]

(Bishop Wilton Gregory - head of the U.S. bishops' conference) - said the issue of homosexuality in the priesthood deserves discussion, in terms of how it affects a priest's ability to keep his promise of living a chaste life. But while it would be helpful to examine this question, Catholic News Service reported that he said it should not necessarily be linked to the sex abuse issue.

Great. We still have liberal bishops refusing to acknowledge the root of the sexual abuse problems with the priesthood. We have a LONG way to go I'm afraid. The influx of liberal seminarians in the 60's and 70's is still a major influence on the American Catholic Church. Even here, in our little town in rural Iowa, our priest assigns members of the parish council readings from America magazine (a lefty Jesuit publication) and makes statements during homilies like "the Pope should allow women to be in the priesthood."

[Mike Fieschko]

Just look in the Kentucky Post.. Covington Diocese.

The article at cincinnati online doesn't give the names. Do you mean the Covington Diocese priests from back in the early - mid-1990s?

[Zipporah]

You didn't do much of a search now did you? Whatever .. just live in your dreamworld... one day you just MAY wake up and guess what..your perfect world that you've created in your mind will be gone.

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

The primary cause of the disproportionate number of sodomite/pedophile priests in the Roman Catholic Church is probation against marriage.

A frequent argument that is specious. How do you explain these limited examples of Protestant abusers who are not bound by vows of celibacy? Incidentally, no one is forced to become a priest in the Western Rite of the Catholic Church. It's a choice made with free will just as the crimes are committed with free will.

[Zipporah]

You do realize that the problem is centered on the marriage ban.. for a couple of reasons. First because it gives a very limited selection of men who would want to enter the priesthood. And because of that limited number gays and pedophiles are more likely to enter the priesthood and they have known that they would be protected. Why? Maybe because those they report to either are gay themselves or because they know that the Bishops etc will protect the church at any cost. I don't know the answer but it seems those Bishops have created a new Catholic Tradition.

The question to ask yourself is .. is the Church's ban on marriage truthfully due to what they veiw as apostolic tradition OR is it due to inheritance rights of priest's children?

[galt-jw]

they could hire klinton for pr. "aah didnt know anything about it until I saw it in the paper. those allegations are false. mistakes were made. this is an isolated problem. (repeat)" reno could fill in to act as a prosecutorial shill.

[galt-jw]

The primary cause of the disproportionate number of sodomite/pedophile priests in the Roman Catholic Church is probation against marriage. It isn't necessarily the Church going out of its way to recruit sodomites, but put yourself in the shoes of a good Catholic parent. You have 2, 3 or more sons. By age 13 or 15 one of those sons has not expressed any interest in girls and your others sons have plenty to tell in confession

um, no. lets see, I am really attracted to women, but cant have any. cant have any sex at all. oh look, lets go bugger a child, or a dog, or a canned ham. they can pick up a female prostitute just as well as a male one. there aint no way you can switch. either you are into that evil crap or you are not. you could get a hummer from a crack ho and be done with it in an hour, or spend weeks and months plotting and scheming to get the kids alone and convince them to allow these sick advances.

[heyheyhey]

the problem is centered on the marriage ban

And does any Catholic suggest you should start eating pork?

[Mike Fieschko]

You didn't do much of a search now did you?

You directed me (in post 24) to the Kentucky Post and the Covington Diocese.

So, when I went to the Post and did a keyword search on "Covington" "Diocese" "priest", that's what I came up with. What time period ought I to look at?

[sussex]

This myth that somehow it all began with the 60/70s is rather misleading. As in most areas of society pre 1966 there was as much abuse but it was swept under the carpet or ignored. Which Catholic parishioner would dare criticise a priest in Boston, Limerick or Seville before the 1960s?

[Mike Fieschko]

is the Church's ban on marriage truthfully due to what they veiw as apostolic tradition OR is it due to inheritance rights of priest's children?

Please tell us what books and authors establish that the requirement of celibacy dating back to at least A.D. 235 (See the 'Refutation of all heresies' by Hippolytus of Rome) is because of inheritance.

[Chemnitz]

Luther commented (What Luther Says) that in his day the people worshiped as gods the cardinals who were satisfied with a woman. The problem is very old and I think almost immune to reform within the Church of Rome. There are too many old queens in high positions.

[kapn kuek]

Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls linked the two when he addressed the issue of homosexuality and the priesthood in March, saying that men with homosexual inclinations "just cannot be ordained."

Does this mean that the United Way will stop passing money to Catholic Charities?

The Boy Scouts and now the Catholic Church see the light! AMEN!!!!

[smorgle]

Thanks for an informative and well written article.