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Seminaries Source of Scandals in Catholic Church
TCRNews.com ^ | April 19, 2002 | John Burger

Posted on 04/20/2002 4:39:25 AM PDT by cathway

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To: cathway; PLK; Zipporah; Calculus_of_Consent; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; pt17
The loss of money, and only the loss of money, will cause Rome to move away from its historical propensity for issuing proclamations to excuse its responsibility in the unleashing of degenerates among the innocent.

Rome can no longer publicly argue it is uninformed; that His Church isn't a cesspool of depravity and complicity the darkest of sins; that its arrogant pretense and protection of evil was not responsible for fostering and crippling its authority as THE source in implementing and forgiving any violation of His Law.

Rome is a sinner without shame; piously issuing proclamations of repentance, while its silence toward the thousands who became pawns for the physically and psychologically deformed continues.

Vanity is source of this sin. Rome is the unrepentant sinner.

A public confession, strict adherence to His Law and an excomunication of internal evil is imperative. Now.

41 posted on 04/20/2002 8:33:48 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
It's a choice made with free will just as the crimes are committed with free will.

You are absolutely right. All I saying is that is one of the major reason this culture, for want of a better word, seems to have developed in the RC church is the probation against married priests and the law of unintended consequences.

42 posted on 04/20/2002 9:37:35 AM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Ann Archy
Are you a Catholic?

Yes. Just not a very good one.

43 posted on 04/20/2002 9:47:07 AM PDT by Calculus_of_Consent
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To: Mike Fieschko
The Eastern Church, i.e. Orthodoxy, welcomes married priests. They must marry before ordination. Interestingly their Bishops must remain celibate. The Church will consecrate widowers. An ambitious man or a pecularly devoted man might choose celibacy before ordination. But the hierarchy carefully vets against homosexuality.
44 posted on 04/20/2002 11:24:16 AM PDT by born yesterday
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To: born yesterday
The Eastern Church, i.e. Orthodoxy, welcomes married priests.

In the Catholic Church, the Latin Rite has the discipline of celibacy. Some of Her other Rites do not.

May Orthodox priests marry after ordination?
45 posted on 04/20/2002 11:27:23 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Mike Fieschko
I will refer you to something else.. Pro 16:18 Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. seems you and several other of your 'brethern' need a good dose of humility.

I did NOT state that as a FACT that celibacy has to do with inheritance etc.. I said IF. You are rather pathetic to say the least.. in your vehement defense of the indefensable you attempt to discredit me..? Why? I have no clue....

I did NOT tell you to LOOK up the Covington Diocese ..you asked where so I told you.. and I told you which paper..IF you can't have the common sense to look up key words..then too bad. I think the truth is, you don't WANT TO FIND THE TRUTH.. sad really..

46 posted on 04/20/2002 2:53:50 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: heyheyhey
And does any Catholic suggest you should start eating pork?

AH a Roman Catholic ANTI-SEMITE .. too funny.

47 posted on 04/20/2002 2:57:36 PM PDT by Zipporah
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To: Zipporah
I will refer you to something else.. Pro 16:18 Pride [goeth] before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. seems you and several other of your 'brethern' need a good dose of humility.

I did NOT state that as a FACT that celibacy has to do with inheritance etc.. I said IF. You are rather pathetic to say the least.. in your vehement defense of the indefensable you attempt to discredit me..? Why? I have no clue....

I did NOT tell you to LOOK up the Covington Diocese ..you asked where so I told you.. and I told you which paper..IF you can't have the common sense to look up key words..then too bad. I think the truth is, you don't WANT TO FIND THE TRUTH.. sad really..


If what I typed or the phrasing I used was offensive, then I apologize. It was not meant to be puffed up with pride, smart-alecky, offensive, demeaning, or to discredit, or humiliate you.

If calling you 'Sparrow' instead of 'Zipporah' was any of that, I apologize.

If I can't find something with a search engine, well, I can't.

If I try to defend celibacy (I think that's what you mean by the indefensible), then I try. It didn't seem 'vehement' when I typed it, but that's how I saw what I typed.
48 posted on 04/20/2002 4:49:42 PM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Yes. Just not a very good one.

God loves all of us. Why do you judge yourself so harshly?

I'll say a prayer for you.

49 posted on 04/25/2002 7:50:31 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: Calculus_of_Consent
Where are your facts that married men will be flocking to the pristhood? I see these blanket statements everywhere, the avereage priest makes $18K a year, and works a 16 hour day. So, where is he going to make up that extra money and be able to satisfy a wife and many children. You think all these presently married men are going to quit their jobs and flock to become priests? And when is a single priest going to find time to date a woman? And what happenes when that priest's wife wants a divorce?

Or, who is going to support all those kids these married priests are going to have? Remember no birth control. We had to let a priest go because we couldn't afford to keep him, he was paid by the mass to assist my pastor. Now he does all the masses by himself.

50 posted on 04/25/2002 8:10:41 PM PDT by Coleus
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