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Pope blunt before U.S. cardinals
MSNBC ^ | April 23, 2002 | NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES

Posted on 04/23/2002 7:11:21 AM PDT by history_matters

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To: Aquinasfan
FYI, Rose will be the guest on an upcoming Catholic Answers program.

Rosie O'Donell? About that apostate church...... LOL

41 posted on 04/23/2002 12:42:42 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: Romulus
"Do these paper-pushers really think they can combat evil and heal the sickness of souls with a bureaucratic solution? Does anyone else understand that by turning all attention on treating the symptom instead of the disease, the hierarchy's threatening to institutionalise sexual abuse as a problem that can be managed -- a disagreeable but inevitable cost of doing business? Unfit priests do not materialise out of thin air. They come from corrupt seminaries, which draw upon an ignorant, secularised laity that's been wandering in the desert for 40 years, systematically denied the spiritual and catechectical rigor to identify and resist the wolves who've come among them."

Excellent post. What you said beared repeating....many times

42 posted on 04/23/2002 12:47:18 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: ClearBlueSky
I do not want ONE homosexual priest in the Church.

You may have to start your own church to make this happen...
43 posted on 04/23/2002 12:54:29 PM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: bookworm89
why aren't the catholics outraged?

They are! BTW, the Catholic Church is not the apostate Church. That may be wishful thinking for some.

44 posted on 04/23/2002 12:55:25 PM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: concerned about politics
Rosie O'Donell? About that apostate church...... LOL

You outta stick with politics!

45 posted on 04/23/2002 12:59:06 PM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: history_matters
Unfortunately, I suspect there are more cardinals involved in covering these things up than just Law. If they vote to remove him they'd be signing their own resignations as well. They haven't shown much backbone, so don't hold your breath.
46 posted on 04/23/2002 1:07:38 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: american colleen
You are right on the money. After seeing Dateline last week and learning of Law's participation in perpetuating the careers of some of the predatory priests, I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment and remedy.
47 posted on 04/23/2002 1:26:06 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: Slyfox
I vaguely remember this too.

This is how JP2 used to be.

I guess he either got old, or hoodwinked by the dudes around him.

Old makes sense.

But hoodwinked, no.

Anyone who can read eight languages or more, can sure as heck get a copy of the Wanderer every now and then.

But I keep thinking about the Bishop who married the moonie chick, and got cracked on by JP2 immediately.

This was not too long ago, either.

This struggle may be the old man's last, and I hope he goes out with a bang by really shaking up the liberals, pervs, and homos in the Church.

49 posted on 04/23/2002 3:06:02 PM PDT by caddie
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To: uncbob
I would recommend reading the Wanderer, even if you are not a Catholic, because it would really open your eyes about suppressed news stories around the world.

Insofar as FR is a good source of otherwise-suppressed news, the Wanderer is even more so.

Very well written, very true to the Church, VERY hated by most liberals in the Church.

I have never heard of a priest admit privately or publicly that he has ever read the Wanderer. Interesting.

I have never heard a news article or editorial EVER mentioned by a priest in a sermon, or privately.

That, in light of the current war in the Church, is truly amazing.

To me it says, the Wanderer is dead on target.

The priests avoid mentioning it like the plague.

50 posted on 04/23/2002 3:11:38 PM PDT by caddie
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To: history_matters
I am not catholic, but I feel a great deal of shame as an American to see these 8 American cardinals drag their stink into the Vatican. Pope John Paul nears the end of a long and fruitful life, and he has to deal with THIS?

I think during these trying times American conservatives of every religious stripe need to build bridges with each other and with conservatives in Europe to tell them loud and clear that we abhor the pedophelia rot in the Catholic church, and that we respect their right to hold onto the celibacy doctrine - we are not the ones questioning them. Even though American society is sex-drenched, we as conservatives are trying to search for a way forward to heal our society.

I think we even need to reach out to the Le Pen people in France and find out what they are all about, with a new pair of eyes.

51 posted on 04/23/2002 3:30:57 PM PDT by ReveBM
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To: american colleen
How do you know if a priest (or bishop or cardinal) is homosexual or not? Well, a big hint might be that they are likely the ones who refuse to preach about the preversion & depravity & sin of homosexual behavior.
52 posted on 04/23/2002 5:33:16 PM PDT by Zorrito
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To: Mike Fieschko
The 40 year old case was a local one. I, as well as most folk, were surprized that it was prosecuted. Due to the death of many witnesses in the interviening time period, a conviction could not be obtained. Yet the defendent was ruined financially by the case.
53 posted on 04/24/2002 7:49:43 AM PDT by maximus@Nashville
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