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Odd Portrait Has Many Guessing Shakespeare Was Gay
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Posted on 04/23/2002 7:23:36 AM PDT by Dallas

LONDON (Reuters) - A 400-year-old painting previously believed to be that of a woman has been found to portray the male patron and friend of William Shakespeare, its owner said on Tuesday.

The picture of the Earl of Southampton, featuring a figure with long, black curly hair, pursed red lips, an earring and a slender right hand, has prompted speculation in British media that Shakespeare was gay.

"He is wearing perfectly fashionable male attire of the day, but the earring and the hair are effeminate and unusual for the 1590s," the painting's owner Alec Cobbe told Reuters.

He said that his family had assumed for centuries that the picture was of a Lady Norton.

But after discovering links between his own family and the Southamptons and a striking resemblance between the portrait and other representations of the 3rd Earl of Southampton, Cobbe was convinced that it is Shakespeare's friend and frequent host.

Scholars have long argued that Southampton was the handsome young man in his late teens to whom an early sequence of Shakespeare's sonnets was addressed.

The painting is dated to around 1590, when Shakespeare was writing early sonnets including one to the "master-mistress of my passion."

"It certainly illustrates that sonnet (number 20) very vividly. We are looking at the subject of the sonnet, I'm sure," said Cobbe.

Alastair Laing, the National Trust's adviser on art, first suggested to Cobbe that the picture was of a male.

"I was cataloguing this collection and realized that this was a young man with long hair, which one or two dandies of the time affected in this manner," he told Reuters.

He is also convinced that the picture is of Southampton, although he argued that the man was not necessarily affecting a female appearance, as a modern observer may assume.

"This is a man but he is not a cross-dresser," Laing said.

"He is not wearing lipstick -- some pigments just stand the passage of time better than others, giving this appearance. It is dangerous to assume anything about this man's character from this portrait."

British newspapers have played up the significance of the discovery (news - web sites), with the mass circulation tabloid Sun headlining its story "Shakesqueer."

But even if the discovery of the portrait is much ado about nothing, it has proved effective publicity for the painting, which is now on show at Cobbe's stately home at Hatchlands Park in southern England.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aleccobbe; cobbeportrait; cobbesalad; gaykkk; homosexualagenda; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; principumamicitias; stanleywells; unitedkingdom; williamshakespeare
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To: Dallas
Then, clearly, Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, et al, were also gay as they appear in pictures wearing long wigs and flowing coats.

I love it when the Gay Fruitcake Brigade stops taking its anti-psychotic meds...

21 posted on 04/23/2002 8:34:14 AM PDT by pabianice
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No way Willy's Gay.

But, wait...he did write "AS YOU LIKE IT," and "TWO GENTLEMEN OF VERONA."

Hmmmm...

And rumor has it that the Scottish Play was originally entitled, "MacBESS." That was before he decided to write it with a lisp.

22 posted on 04/23/2002 8:49:10 AM PDT by tkotemecula
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To: Snake65
"Let's face it -- without Jews, fags and Gypsies there would be no theater!" That's funny. I'm guessing Mel is talking about the current situation, and not the case of the Ancient Greeks.
23 posted on 04/23/2002 8:53:28 AM PDT by tkotemecula
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To: Dallas
Geez Lou-eeze. I think I get it now. Everyone, without exception, who ever accomplished anything of worth in history, is gay.
24 posted on 04/23/2002 9:06:55 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: toddst
Actually, it was not de Vere or Elizabeth. O.J. did it.
25 posted on 04/23/2002 9:10:48 AM PDT by maximus@Nashville
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To: maximus@Nashville
So now we'll see O.J. suing someone for his royalty checks??
26 posted on 04/23/2002 9:54:28 AM PDT by toddst
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To: jgrubbs
I don't claim my gaydar is as accurate as (say) John McCain's, but le patron does look a bit light in the loafers, certainly.
27 posted on 04/23/2002 9:58:52 AM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Dallas
More nonsense. The connection between the Earl of Southhampton and the Sonnets is speculative. The sonnets are dedicated to the unknown Master W. H. by the printer, not by Shakespeare. Noblemen at the time wore their hair long. Earings too are not unknown. A portrait of John Donne in his youth shows him wearing a gold crucifix in one ear. Donne was still Catholic then, and was a notorious "visitor of ladies," as one contemporary put it.
28 posted on 04/23/2002 10:00:51 AM PDT by Cicero
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To: gumbo
I personally ascribe to the theory that Shakespeare wrote Shakespeare. There's a preponderance of evidence that he did.
29 posted on 04/23/2002 10:10:45 AM PDT by twigs
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To: tkotemecula
But, wait...he did write "AS YOU LIKE IT," and "TWO GENTLEMEN OF VERONA."

I heard he also wrote "Deliverance", too.

30 posted on 04/23/2002 10:12:31 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: gumbo
Joe Sobran wrote a pretty convincing book that the real author of "Shakespeare's" works was Edward de Vere, 17th Earl of Oxford. But maybe that guy was gay too.

You are correct. I read the book, and everything Sobran says makes sense. I have no doubt the 17th Earl of Oxford authored Shakespear's works.

The 17th Earl of Oxford didn't sound as if he was too straight, but who knows. In an article here on FR a few weeks ago, it said the British don't ask if so and so is gay, but rather, how gay is he.

31 posted on 04/23/2002 11:23:35 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Dallas
Odd Portrait Has Many Sodomites Hoping Shakespeare Was Gay
32 posted on 04/23/2002 11:26:24 AM PDT by MarineDad
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To: Robe
DUH ! He was in the theater wasn’t he? But seriously, wasn’t all the female parts back then played by males?
I resent that stereotype! I have been involved in the theater for over 35 years, and am not gay...just ask my wife and kids!
Following your logic, then John Wayne was gay (he did some theater early in his career). Ronald Reagan was gay too.
Yes, back then female parts were playerd by men, because women were not allowed to join the Guild. And FYI, I have played a woman on stage...ever seen the play (or movie) "Charlie's Aunt"?
Newcats
33 posted on 04/23/2002 11:30:24 AM PDT by newcats
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To: Cicero
Oh, what a great clarification, including
The sonnets are dedicated to the unknown Master W. H. by the printer, not by Shakespeare.
Things of that sort must be known to the specialists. Why are they so conveniently omitted? This is a rhetorical question, of course.

Thanks, orator.

34 posted on 04/23/2002 6:45:48 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: FrdmLvr
Sir Frances Bacon actually authored the works of Shakespeare.

There's another theory which claims that rival playwright openly gay Christopher Marlowe wrote plays as "Shakespeare" after faking his own death at the hands of a jealous lover.

35 posted on 04/23/2002 6:53:06 PM PDT by Alouette
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