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Gay Catholics Struggle With Scandal
AP ^ | 5/5/02 | AP

Posted on 05/06/2002 7:06:08 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

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To: usconservative
...how can one be GAY and a Practicing Catholic?

They forget to add one more adjective...Cafeteria; as in practicing cafeteria Catholic.

41 posted on 05/06/2002 8:50:14 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: melsec
The crazy idea that some churches preach that Jesus loved the poor more than the rich or powerful is absolute rubbish.

"It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven."

"Rich" doesn't just apply to material means.

Jesus loves all of us, infinitely. That's not the problem.

The core issue is how we respond to that Love.

42 posted on 05/06/2002 8:50:57 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Xenalyte
My guess is that the meeting won't be held in a church building.

Bishops' meetings are held in hotel ballrooms. I'm sure the security for this meeting will be the tightest ever.

I'm not aware that the bishops entertain lectures from grievance groups when they convene, either.

43 posted on 05/06/2002 8:56:33 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: anniegetyourgun
Clinicians say no credible data exists on the number of abusive priests who are homosexual and there is no evidence that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest children.

Then why is virtually every case that has come to light in the media a male who was molested?

44 posted on 05/06/2002 8:57:42 AM PDT by LouD
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To: anniegetyourgun
See, this is just wrong. Until the church allows females to become priests, this fine young lesbian can never have sex with a priest. Many of her male friends, very young and old, are having sex with priests all over the country. Fairy priests have taken over. This is sex discrimination at its very worst.
45 posted on 05/06/2002 9:01:55 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: sinkspur
This is what God used to think of homosexuality; has He changed His mind?:


46 posted on 05/06/2002 9:07:49 AM PDT by Kerensky
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To: ThomasMore
In order to make the excommunication effective and meaningful, it will have to be imposed on those priests and bishops who continue to trade the truth that homosexual acts are gravely sinful for the lie that it is an acceptable sexual variation, and who continue to sacramentally accommodate the homosexually active .
47 posted on 05/06/2002 9:13:41 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: eastsider
AGREED!
48 posted on 05/06/2002 9:15:02 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: sinkspur
"Rich" doesn't just apply to material means.

I disagree.
Having wealth can be a hurdle to get over on the road to salvation. Those who have wealth very often feel superior to others and trust in their wealth to solve all human problems they may encounter. They think they don't 'need' God and reject the need for a savior. Think Ted Turner.

Jesus loves all of us, infinitely. That's not the problem.

Yes, I agree there.
Christ's love is inclusive of all, regardless of our position in life. He clearly showed that during His earthly ministry, making personal contact with prostitutes, tax collectors, many of the poor.

The core issue is how we respond to that Love.

Agreed, again.
I simply contend, as Jesus did, that having great wealth can be an obstacle to seeking salvation.
Christians have Christ and so, already have everything ('wealth') regardless of current finincial or social status as Christ has already overcome the world. The fact that some Christians may lose sight of this is sad but not unusual.

49 posted on 05/06/2002 9:29:23 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: sinkspur
Keep an ear to the ground, will you? I'd be very interested in what tack they are taking.
50 posted on 05/06/2002 9:30:32 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
It's not like Dignity's plans are secret -- instructions for a letter-writing campaign are posted right on their home page.
51 posted on 05/06/2002 9:41:13 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: eastsider
Wow ... the "crucifix" says it all where their god is concerned.
52 posted on 05/06/2002 9:48:19 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: anniegetyourgun
Mary Louise Cervone has been a practicing Roman Catholic all her life and, as a lesbian, has long hoped for acceptance from the church.

Find another church, Mary Louise, a practicing homosexual has never been accepted in the Roman Catholic Church. Why would someone who is not a practicing homosexual take such pains to define themselves as gay? If you're chaste, celibate and have homosexual impulses and want to be accepted by the Church then shut up about it. No one cares.

53 posted on 05/06/2002 9:53:26 AM PDT by Orual
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To: anniegetyourgun
"It's a difficult point for homosexual Catholics that the church condemns homosexual activity."

Too bad.

It's God's rule.

Deal with it.

54 posted on 05/06/2002 10:18:43 AM PDT by Steve0113
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To: sinkspur
"Rich" doesn't just apply to material means. Jesus loves all of us, infinitely. That's not the problem. The core issue is how we respond to that Love.

My point exactly! By the way I think in the rich man and the eye of the needle story the last verse is "what is impossible with man is possible with God". Jesus was correcting the misunderstanding that worldly success was alwasy a product of God's favour on someone. The poor had previously been under the misapprehension that to be poor meant that you did not find favour with God. Guess who lead them to beleive that - mainly the rich and powerful. No wonder the truth that Jesus spoke had such a profound effect on the poor : Jesus gave them hope that God might indeed love them and care about them personally.

God Bless

Mel

55 posted on 05/06/2002 10:32:27 AM PDT by melsec
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To: history_matters
Which Catholic conservative or traditionalist organizations will also be greeted by the bishops in Dallas to rebut and critique the pro-homosexual agenda?
56 posted on 05/06/2002 10:33:02 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: cantfindagoodscreenname
re: McCain as "practicing Republican."

LOL! Like all those "fallen-away conservatives" and "recovering" postmodern neo-cons???

57 posted on 05/06/2002 10:39:09 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Xenalyte
My guess is that the meeting won't be held in a church building. Ergo, Dignity isn't breakin' the rules.

In a hotel function room I suppose. That's cutting it pretty fine. You could almost call it Clintonesque.

58 posted on 05/06/2002 10:45:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: anniegetyourgun
...there is no evidence that homosexuals are more likely than heterosexuals to molest children.

Ok then, what percentage of the current abuse cases involve the priests molesting little boys? Da bing da boom! There's your evidence!

Next!

59 posted on 05/06/2002 10:52:21 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: Aquinasfan;sinkspur
In a hotel function room I suppose. That's cutting it pretty fine.

I think spinkspur nailed it -- they are not going to address the Bishops, rather they will be there to address the media circus.

SD

60 posted on 05/06/2002 10:57:18 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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