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Chavez in Venezuela receives support from groups in Cuba, Colombia, Lebanon and Libya
gacv · Grupo AntiChavez de Venezuela ^ | 12 May 2002 | Gen. (R) Rafael Ángel Montero Revette

Posted on 05/16/2002 8:19:44 AM PDT by j_accuse

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gacv/message/1916
Enviado: Domingo 12 de Mayo de 2002 08:54 PM
Asunto: Fwd: Esta circulando, NO LO DETENGAS, dejalo circular .....


> >Subject: Esta circulando, NO LO DETENGAS, dejalo circular .....
> >Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:13:08 -0400
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >Esta circulando, NO LO DETENGAS, dejalo circular
> > > > Esto me llegó hoy, por favor, traten de hacerlo circular a todo
> > > >el que puedan.
> > > > Ahora sí la cosa se está poniendo bien fea...
> > > > Dada la gravedad de este comunicado, recomendaría la distribución
> > > >inmediata de éste entre sus conocidos...
> > > >
> > > > Remitido del General de División Rafael Ángel Montero Revette, ex
> > > >ministro de la Defensa Hoy dada la grave situación social, política,
> > > >económica y militar que vive el país y ante el futuro negro que tiene la Patria,
> > > >tengo la necesidad en mi conciencia como venezolano de alertar a todo el
> > > >país sobre lo siguiente:
> > > >
> > > > - Sé que se está preparando un auto-golpe o un estado de
> > > >excepción, para instalar un sistema comunista en el país, con apoyo de Fidel Castro,
> > > >la guerrilla colombiana y organizaciones terroristas del Líbano y de
> > > >Libia.
> > > > Se han reunido miembros de inteligencia del MBR-200 con personas
> > > >pertenecientes al Foro de Sao Paulo y diversos agentes de
> > > >inteligencia cubana para tal fin.
> > > > En años anteriores han traído armas a través del puerto de La
> > > >Guiara, además de botas de combate, carpas, fornituras, etc. Y lo enviaron a
> > > >Ciudad Bolívar.
> > > > - Se ha establecido un pacto con las FARC, en el que se obligan a
> > > >prestar asistencia mutua y de poder contar con más de 5 mil hombres armados
> > > >en caso de una revuelta en el país. Oficiales retirados de la Fuerza Armada
> > > >Colombiana dan asesoría técnica.
> > > > -Freddy Bernal, trasladó desde Nicaragua, hace varios años, un
> > > >lote de armas a Venezuela, entre las que tenemos:
> > > >
> > > > 13 fusiles de asalto AK47, 7.62 mm (Soviéticos)
> > > > 07 fusiles de asalto GALIL, 5.56 mm (Israelí)
> > > > 08 pistolas automáticas MAKAROV, 9mm (Soviéticas)
> > > > 14 pistolas automáticas TOKAREV, 7.62 mm (Soviéticas)
> > > > 03 lanza cohetes RPG, modelo 7 (Soviéticos)
> > > >
> > > > Además han comprado últimamente armamento para equipar los
> > > >Círculos Bolivarianos, los cuales están planificando desde el año 94, y la
> > > >misión de estos, junto a grupos estudiantiles (tomistas de la UCV); es crear
> > > >caos en zonas marginales y alterar el orden público, generando un escenario
> > > >propicio para un auto-golpe o un estado de excepción. ¿Qué ha hecho la FAN
> > > >para procesar esta información? Las acciones de calle se llevarán en las
> > > >principales ciudades del país buscando un efecto de escalada
> > > >(Maracay, Maracaibo, Valencia, Barquisimeto, además del área metropolitana).
> > > >
> > > > -Implementarán la táctica de terrorismo selectivo, para mermar
> > > >psicológicamente a empresarios, medios de comunicación, y demás
> > > >opositores al régimen.
> > > >
> > > > -Adquirieron un lote considerable de material explosivo cables,
> > > >detonantes, mechas, pólvora, C-4, etc), procedente de grupos
> > > >guerrilleros Colombianos y lo tiene el hermano del Capitán Eliezer Otaiza, quien
> > > >es un oficial retirado y explosivista profesional. - Grupos guerrilleros
> > > >Colombianos, han preparado un plan para atracos a bancos y
> > > >transporte de valores, y el plan se llama Plan Colombia.
> > > >
> > > > -Existe además un lote de armas, bastante apreciable, que fueron
> > > >robadas de instalaciones militares entre los años 92 y 94, las que se
> > > >perdieron en el golpe del 04 de febrero del año 92, y las que repartieron a los
> > > >Círculos Bolivarianos en el golpe del 27 de noviembre de ese mismo año.
> > > >
> > > > -Con esto quiero demostrar que el gobierno tiene armamento para
> > > >enfrentar pueblo contra pueblo y ellos poder actuar con un autogolpe o estado
> > > >de excepción. Pero quiero también informar que todos los Oficiales y
> > > >Sub-Oficiales Profesionales de Carrera, que nos encontramos en
> > > >situación de retiro al igual que ex-Guardias Nacionales, y ex-Policías, que
> > > >combatimos y derrotamos a las guerrillas cubanas, las que osaron mancillar
> > > >nuestra soberanía, que también estamos armados y enfrentaremos con toda
> > > >decisión cualquier acción de este tipo que veamos venir, y que no
> > > >permitiremos el
> > > >derramamiento de sangre entre venezolanos. Tenemos conciencia del
> > > >país y de la Patria, al igual que la gran mayoría de los venezolanos (muchos
> > > >también tiene armamento) y que no permitiremos que se establezca en el país
> > > >un gobierno Marxista-Comunista.
> > > >
> > > > Por todas estas razones, debemos invocar la frase de nuestro
> > > >Himno Nacional: "Abajo Cadenas, gritaba el señor". Tenemos que lograr la
> > > >salida de este gobierno castro-comunista. Hago un llamado a todos los
> > > >Venezolanos y Extranjeros que viven en nuestra gran Venezuela, para que hablen y
> > > >no se queden callados, y nos unamos en una sola voz por nuestro Pueblo y
> > > >por nuestra Patria.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >>Rafael Ángel Montero Revette
> > > > > >>General de División (Ej)
> > > > > >>Ex ministro de la Defensa
> > > > > >>CI 2.953.284


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: arms; castro; chavez; cuba; farc; guerrilla; latinamericalist; venezuela
The former Defense Minister reports that Chavez may be planning a self-coup to get rid of his rivals and consolidate his power once and for all, with help from Cuban agents, Colombia narco-guerrillas and terrorists from Lebanon and Libya . The general points out to:


1) Intelligence meetings between the pro-Chavez MBR-200, the Leftist Sao Paulo Forum and Cuban intelligence agents.

2) Arms and military supplies smuggled into the Western Venezuela port La Guiara and then trucked to Ciudad Bolívar.

3) An agreement with Colombia FARC guerrillas to have 5,000 men ready to provide assistance in case of a revolt, with training from retired Colombia Armed Forces (sic) officials.

4) Obtention by Caracas Mayor Freddy Bernal, of an arms cache of Ak47s, Makarov and Tokarev automatic pistols and RPG7 grenade launchers from Nicaragua, as well as arms purchases for the dreaded pro-Chavez Bolivarian Circles and "tomistas" student groups to create chaos that will justify a state of siege.

5) Acquisition of C-4 explosive materials from Colombian guerrillas and now in the hands of a retired explosives officer

6) An alternative "Plan Colombia" for bank robberies by Colombian guerrillas

7) Continuing disappearance of arms stolen from military bases during the 1992 and 1994 military coups and those distributed to Bolivarian Circles on November 27 of 1992

8) Accelerated retirement of Venezuelan officers who fought Cuban guerrillas in the 1960s

Where is an investigative reporter when you need one? While "experts" seek confirmation, this is being posted as food for thought.
1 posted on 05/16/2002 8:19:50 AM PDT by j_accuse
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2 posted on 05/16/2002 9:03:18 AM PDT by j_accuse
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To: j_accuse
I don't know what to say, except that it is u n a c c e p t a b l e. This violent takeover of terrorist/foe jurisdiction in South America should be stopped. All I can say to the current US admin is, wacha you gonna do when they come for you!
3 posted on 05/16/2002 9:22:24 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: j_accuse; Cincinatus' Wife; LarryLied; mafree
Yellow flag alert! The "Lebanese" would be Iran's boys - Hezbollah. Why would Iran and Libya care an iota about this place? To suppress Venezuelan oil production by siding with the local advocates of strict adherance to OPEC restriction, Chavez and Ali Rodriguez, which Venezuelan experts say actually causes Venezuela to make less money. Another strategic aim is to suppress, deter, even destroy Colombian oil production - much of the reserves being in rebel-held and nearby provinces.

I suppose the cover story for the P.C. masses is the countries are kind of a international grouping of fellow-thinking leftists and anti-Americans. But it's the money. Iran doesn't pay a dime to Castro and not expect something in return. If things heat up there, expect shallow readings from our press about "social justice" and other cover stories. Of course, it's up to our government to explain these things, which they seem to be coy about. Just come out and say it - it's about the price of oil, and Chavez will trade bigger benefits for Venezuela to aggrandize his own position.

As mafree say, "follow da oil."

4 posted on 05/16/2002 10:45:40 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: j_accuse
Thank you for the post. I'm going to save it.

It looks like there is about to be civil war in Venezuela.

Panama’s chief of police, Jose Bares who looks like Chavez’s brother only with more lard, along with help from Nicaragua, is gunrunning to the terrorists in Colombia and Venezuela. Somehow the pieces of the puzzle are beginning to fit, and it doesn’t look pretty. It sounds like the crooks in the government of Panama could be involved.

Panama News

Now corruption cuts the heart of national sovereignty

Volume 8, number 9, 12 – 25 May 2002

We deal with allegations that have been denied, and that will not be thoroughly and impartially investigated. We deal with mutual finger-pointing from two of the world's most corrupt governments, Nicaragua's and the one that Mireya Moscoso runs here in Panama.

But before we dismiss the latest scandal about gun running to the bloodthirsty AUC paramilitary in Colombia as mere unproven allegations, we need to recognize the harm that this affair, on its face another aspect of the Moscoso administration's taking sides in Colombia's civil conflict, has done to Panamanian sovereignty.

There is no question that President Moscoso is allowing Plan Colombia supply and reinforcement operations to be conducted by US "civilian contractor" mercenaries from Panamanian territory. There is no question that Colombians fleeing from the leftist FARC rebels are tolerated in Jaque, but other Colombian fleeing from the right wing AUC are not. There is no question that the recent US-Panamanian anti-drug agreement can be interpreted by the Americans as permission to carry out Plan Colombia missions in and over Panamanian territory, because according to US policy, any anti-FARC action is "anti-drug." Thus the alleged involvement of Panama's National Police in gun running to the AUC, which is essentially a drug-financed unofficial extension of the Colombian Army, would be in keeping with the policy that the Moscoso administration has been carrying out but won't admit.

But Colombia's civil strife never ends. Our neighbors have been at war with themselves almost continually since 1830. This is the main reason why, nearly a century ago, Panama decided to go its separate way as a nation.

Each of Colombia's combatant factions could run roughshod over Panama if it chose to do so. The Moscoso administration's involvement in Colombia's mess could provide such a motive.

Even if that worst-case scenario doesn't come to pass, Mireya's policies have made Panama complicit in the most atrocious human rights violations and tend to isolate us from most other Latin American countries, which condemn Plan Colombia. She's acting more like a minor White House appointee than as the leader of an independent nation.

OAS to "investigate" arms scandal

After several rounds of allegations and counter-allegations between Panama's and Nicaragua's police chief, the case of the arms shipment that made its way to the AUC paramilitary in Colombia has been submitted by Presidents Bolaños of Nicaragua and Moscoso of Panama to the Organization of American States. The OAS is headed by former Colombian President César Gaviria. When Gaviria was commander-in-chief of the Colombian Army, the AUC and the army regularly worked together, for example by soldiers blocking entrances and exits from villages and sending the AUC in to massacre the inhabitants. More recently, Colombian customs agents allowed the arms shipment in question to enter the AUC-held port of Turbo. In the most recent US State Department human rights report on Colombia, it was alleged that the ties between the army and AUC persist. However, the Bush administration just certified to the contrary, in order to meet US congressional restrictions on Plan Colombian funding. According to the paperwork for the questionable arms deal, the weapons were sold by the Nicaraguan police to the Panamanian police. Panama's police chief, José Barés, claims that the papers were forged.

5 posted on 05/16/2002 11:45:32 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Shermy
The oil industry was amazed last week when Occidental Petroleum decided not to procede with drilling in Colombia. The Democrats killed oil production in ANWR.The Democrats also support Castro and tried to make an issue of the attempted overthrow of Chavez. There does seem to be a pattern here.
6 posted on 05/16/2002 11:49:17 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
I don't think they even know they are part of the pattern. And it's not just them. The general public analysis of Chavez is that he is a patriot with leftist inclinations, and has some affinity with Castro and Libya - the connections to Saddam and Iran are not examined. Nor are they explained by our government. The context that this has to do with the price of oil, and whose oil, and the trades of influence behind it is wholly unexamined.

The info's there, I found it starting here at FR!

Another example, the phoney "embargo" threats by Iran, etc. that tacked on, according to one analyst, $6.00 to the price of oil per barrel. Each threat was uncritically repeated by a hysterical press while the voices of all experts, even the Gulf Arabs, who denied that an embargo would ever take place were suppressed. Doesn't fit the Standard Interpretation, and hysteria sells more commercials than reasonable temper. As of yet have not seen one major media outlet consider why Arafat chose that time a few months ago to increase the bombings. Who paid him? Who's interests was he serving, the Palestinians?

7 posted on 05/16/2002 12:29:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: j_accuse;all
The Web of Terror

Castro, the Carribean, and Terrorism

8 posted on 05/16/2002 12:44:13 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: Shermy
You're right- follow da oil. It is somewhat troubling to see Hezbollah caught up in this- don't want them to get their paws on an oil supply.
9 posted on 05/16/2002 2:42:46 PM PDT by mafree
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Nothing ever changes, does it? For reasons of oil and the pretext of a drug war, the U.S. assembles its usual array of shadowy figures, corrupt politicos and outright sadists to go after a gang of bandits who parade under a pseudo-Marxist banner to legitimize their criminality.

You are absolutely right about the endless internecine war in Colombia. It began more than a hundred years ago and will outlast us all. Despite all the hype being churned out by the State Department, the FARC has never had the most remote chance of seizing power in Colombia. They don't want to run Colombia--no one CAN run Colombia. They just want to run their criminal enterprise and keep making millions.

Most Americans, used to nice neat battle lines and clearcut bad guys, have an appalling ignorance of Latin America, have never traveled there and have no clue as to the tangled-up mess that is Colombia. If ever there were a tar patch to steer clear of, it is Colombia, but instead we will go naively marching in, banging the drum to help our 'patriot' friends who rape and murder and deal drugs just like the other side. But by calling themselves anti-Communists, they get lots of money from fools like us.

But when was it ever different?
10 posted on 05/16/2002 7:11:58 PM PDT by al-andalus
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