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TN TAX BATTLE: TRA CONFLICT MAY HOLD UP (INCOME) TAX VOTE (BLACK CAUCUS IN ACTION)
The Tennessean ^ | 5/17/02 | Bonna de la Cruz

Posted on 05/17/2002 5:39:56 AM PDT by GailA

Edited on 05/07/2004 9:20:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Efforts to gain votes for the income tax appeared to hit a snag after withdrawal of support by some members of the legislative Black Caucus.

As a result, the Senate Commerce Committee yesterday threatened to dissolve a state agency at the heart of the conflict.


(Excerpt) Read more at tennessean.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: budgetcrisis; incometax; naifeh; taxquist; taxreform; tennessee
Click on link for full article:BILLHOBBS

The Silence is Deafening

Tom Humphrey covers state government for the Knoxville News-Sentinel but it's not clear if he's read the state constitution recently. Appearing on Teddy Bart's Roundtable radio show today, Humphrey asserted that the constitution is "silent" in the issue of a state income tax.

It isn't.

Article 2, Sections 28 and 29 is where the constitution authorizes the legislature to levy certain kinds of taxes. The income tax is omitted. Those who favor the income tax say the silence doesn't automatically prohibit non-listed taxes.

1 posted on 05/17/2002 5:39:56 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
MAKE PHONE CALLS they are flooded with email. Rep Todd told me on Tuesday he's getting 1,800 emails a day.

General Assembly On the left side of the page are these choices: Information, Senate, House, Joint, Bills and Other Links. These options should get you to any information you need including office numbers, phone numbers, email addresses, committee assignments, legislative bills, etc.

Toll Free calling 1-800-449-8366 + extension or call the switchboard at (615) 741-3011.

2 posted on 05/17/2002 5:42:07 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA;all
The appointments require legislative approval this year, and none is African-American

GOOD, the term African-american places allegance to Africa first, therefore, they are not American's. We need to face reality there is only one race. Stop giving special groups extra priveledges. Appoint based on merit only regardless of skin tone, hair color, etc.

3 posted on 05/17/2002 5:53:32 AM PDT by wwjdn
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To: GailA
Anna Marie Hartman www.wmctv.com

Pro tax citizens want to be heard

Students at the University of Memphis could be facing another tuition hike if state legislators cut an estimated $93-million from colleges and universities across the state. Those in favor of tax reform say this is another example of how a state income tax is the best solution to Tennessee's money problems.

In the crowd rallying against taxes at the capitol this week, only a handful came out to support tax reform. Nell Levin of Nashville says it's not a good strategy. "We just choose not to come out here and do this kind of thing. We don't feel it's as effective as getting on the telephone and calling our legislators."

Memphian Michael Schmidt was not on the streets of Nashville Wednesday, but he is among those who favors a state income tax. "People are concerned that this is just another way for the government to get their claws into them and I just say you know get over it," say Schmidt. His 7-year old Grayson has a younger sister and Schmidt worries about the future of their education. "It's very disconcerting because I'm starting to realize that my children might not have the chance for a decent k-12 education as I enjoyed as a child in Ohio."

As a professor at the University of Memphis for the past 7 years, Schmidt's beginning to see the scars that consistent budget cuts have left behind. "Truth be told I've seen a lot of professors leave I've seen a lot of folks say you know I cannot get the raise that I need." And students who say they can't afford another tuition hike, says Schmidt.

Advocates for tax reform may not be as vocal as their opponents. But they say the money to balance the budget will come from the taxpayers whether there's an income tax or not. And they believe delaying the inevitable will result in more costly consequences for the state's future.

WELL, proffessor I CAN'T AFFORD A 4.5% PAY CUT SO YOU CAN HAVE A 3.5% PAY RAISE. HEY, PROF YOU ARE DOING FUZZY MATH AGAIN trading a 3.5% pay raise for a 4.5% pay cut. OVER EDUCATED PROF doing FUZZY math.

4 posted on 05/17/2002 5:58:21 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
Thanks for posting the article. Personally I find the alternating font styles to be a little distracting. I find it easier to follow the flow if everything is the same font and color.
5 posted on 05/17/2002 6:03:12 AM PDT by Mini-14
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To: GailA
The Democrats have the answer to all of this.Create more government jobs,brillant.Appoint more boards and commissions.
6 posted on 05/17/2002 6:05:53 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: GailA
Thanks, GailA, for keeping us informed. I wish you well in your fight. This is a microcosm of the entire nation. While many states (and obviously the feds) already have an income tax, your fight to keep control of your government is inspiring. It may indeed lead to real, fundmental tax reform everywhere.

Giving your pols the income tax is giving up your freedom. Don't let it happen.

7 posted on 05/17/2002 6:17:38 AM PDT by Principled
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To: GailA; Taxreform
Thanks, Gail, for this post.

You folks in Tennessee are waging a successful war against those in your government who would futher enslave you.

Bravo Zulu! I salute you for holding your ground and making such a strong case against the imposition of a state income tax.

I wish you all the best of luck in holding off the scumbag politicians and their lackey friends who have spent and spent and spent Tennessee into this fiscal crisis.

There is no tax problem in Tennessee. There is a scumbag politician SPENDING problem!

It is time to change the diapers in Nashville! I would urge all Tennessee residents to actively campaign against those scumbag politicians who are supporting Taxquist's income tax scheme.

When you elect honest citizens to state offices, you will solve the problem.

8 posted on 05/17/2002 6:27:55 AM PDT by Taxman
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To: Principled
News 5 Income Tax poll; should TN pass an IT: ITPOLL

Tennessee Political News May 16, 2002

Tax Plan May Hinge On Deal-Making The political game playing is in high gear at the state capitol.

Speaker Jimmy Naifeh is working hard to convince 59 house members to support the flat rate income tax.

When he didn't call for a vote Wednesday, some lawmakers said it was because of behind the scenes maneuvering by the 14 house members of the black legislative caucus.

A struggle for power on the agency that regulates your phone bill and other utilities is the issue in play.

The black caucus wants to keep black member Melvin Malone on TRA's powerful three-person board.

"This is not about race, this is about consumers being represented on the TRA," said Rep. Joe Armstrong, (D) Knoxville.

The senate has approved three members and none is black. The house has not yet voted.

The black legislative caucus said phone companies wanted Malone off the board.

Caucus members today said the issue is very important to them, but it will not delay the tax vote.

"I don't think there is any caucus member that would say, 'I'm going to hold the state of Tennessee hostage until we resolve this other issue,'" said Rep. Edith Taylor Langster, (D) Nashville.

In fact members of the black caucus believe House Speaker Naifeh already has the votes to pass the flat tax.

"I think the votes are there in the house. I don't think the votes are there in the Senate," Langster said.

Everyone denies deal making, but with the vote so close every member's concern is critical.

It takes seventeen votes in the Senate to pass the income tax. Speaker Naifeh said Senate leaders have told him they will pass whatever bill the house passes.

9 posted on 05/17/2002 6:31:06 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
"Memphian Michael Schmidt was not on the streets of Nashville Wednesday, but he is among those who favors a state income tax. "People are concerned that this is just another way for the government to get their claws into them and I just say you know get over it," say Schmidt. His 7-year old Grayson has a younger sister and Schmidt worries about the future of their education. "It's very disconcerting because I'm starting to realize that my children might not have the chance for a decent k-12 education as I enjoyed as a child in Ohio."

He needs to move his yankee butt and his kid back to Ohio and leave the legitimate citizens of Tennesse to determine their business. Only natural born citizens of a state should have the right to vote on state matters, it needs to be part of every state Constitution.

10 posted on 05/17/2002 6:35:01 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: GailA;taxman;ancient_geezer;bigun;*taxreform
Do you think the state House should pass the 4.5 percent flat income tax?

Yes 24.83 % (3572 out of 14384 voted)

No 75.17 % (10812 out of 14384 voted)

to vote, see link in #9

11 posted on 05/17/2002 6:44:46 AM PDT by Principled
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To: MissAmericanPie
MissAmericanPie that would let me out of voting. I'm not a native Tennessean, my parents were native to Campbell Co, LaFollette, TN, as were my grandparents. My granny worked the shirt factory there and my grandpa the coal mine before Black Lung got him. But I've lived here 17 years and feel Tennessee is my home and mine to defend with my vote.
12 posted on 05/17/2002 6:54:04 AM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
Yeah, you do have a history there. But I do resent people foreign to a state thinking they have the right to determine the direction it takes over the objections of those native born to that state. Daring to tell them to "get over it". Even if you lost your vote, it would be offset by the inability of outsiders to call the tune for the native born. Call me hard to get along with. =o)
13 posted on 05/17/2002 6:58:31 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
That would hold true is states like Washington and Oregon where the LIBERALS fleeing OVER TAXED Kali have settled and taken their socialist/commie/marxist beliefs with them. But TN is a conservative state, most of the newcomers are conservative too. They are pitching in and helping us fight this theft of our wages. We just got a FReeper who just moved to Nashville from out of state and he's already pitching in.

Liberals are the enemy.

14 posted on 05/17/2002 3:00:31 PM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
These outrageously high numbers, like $93 million (10 times as many dollars as the number of miles from Earth to Sun), would not be speakable if the school budget had not been allowed to balloon to such vast proportions.

God knows what we are funding at the University of Memphis. Look at the core curriculum for majoring in American Studies (i.e., "Bash every white male heterosexual in American history except for Wilson, FDR, and the Kennedys" Studies), within the College of University Studies.

Then there's the Ed. Psych. brain shrinkers. (Nurse Ratchet looks like she's just had a double botox injection). Seriously, though, these are the people who will be in charge of teaching those who would be "socializing" 4-year old children if Sun'bitch gets his way.... Read Ayn Rand's essay, "The Comprachicos" for an accurate description of the educational establishment's goal for what was my generation at the time it was written - these people have been entrenched for many years now.

The whole list of majors is at http://www.memphis.edu/majorsminorsindex.html.

15 posted on 05/17/2002 3:11:13 PM PDT by TN Republican
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To: MissAmericanPie
I would like to see a system where you had to be off welfare, as a minimum requirement for enfranchisement. It would never work thanks to the farmers and other government teat-suckers.

I do hate hearing newcomers, esp. Yanks, who expect us to do everything for them. Why can't these people appreciate our low taxes, and use their free time to help educate their own children? The average two-parent family has someone in it who is just as well qualified to teach their children as an ed-skool graduate who has spent 4 years as a receptacle for piles upon piles of intellectual garbage.

16 posted on 05/17/2002 3:21:34 PM PDT by TN Republican
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To: TN Republican!
I can tell you want Continuing ED courses we are paying for at the U of Memphis for the spring/summer 2002. This is not a full list, just some of the more assinine ones. Like HOW TO DECORATE EASTER EGGS or HOW TO WRAP CHRISTMAS PRESENTS. Honest to God these are courses that the U of M has for Continuing ED courses.

A small fee is paid for these courses BUT by the time you factor in salary, insurance, utilities, wear and tear on the buildings, etc. the small fee can't make these things pay for themselves

Where are your manners? for kids 7-11
Father & daughter luau
tennis
Camp Abracadabra! kids 7-14 learn magic tricks
Mock trial
Jewelry making for family fun kids 9-15 Explore the wolf river headwaters
Antizue shop tour
A waliking tour of historic downtown Memphis
A walk through victorian village
Poise & modeling for girls 5-12
wire jewelry making
pottery
simple sewing
home made baby food
social & party dancing, cha cha, cha, Elizabethan dance, ballroom dancing, etc
power posture
massage
create a life you love
fashion & glamour workshop
collecting dolls
beading
3 game
rollerblading
sailin
personal image
social etiqute
modeling
make up for the mature
Finding the ideal job for you
lets get organized
cut the clutter
starting the school year

17 posted on 05/17/2002 8:34:35 PM PDT by GailA
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To: GailA
A big question we have missed asking is WHY don't the phone companies want Malone???????????
18 posted on 05/18/2002 4:44:34 AM PDT by GailA
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