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Why Israel's 'seruvniks' say enough is enough
The Observer ^ | May 19, 2002 | Michael Sfard

Posted on 05/21/2002 7:55:47 AM PDT by ThreeOfSeven

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To: ThreeOfSeven
And which prosperous democracy would that be?

I maintain that total annexation and assimilation, by force, is the only salvation they will know.

41 posted on 05/21/2002 12:39:49 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: ThreeOfSeven
However, the Israeli occupation is a form of tyranny, the opposite of democracy.

And if the "occuption" was ended what would happen? Answer--The creation of a terrorist state where autocrat Arafat offers NONE of the liberty and justice you claim to be in favor of.

Your very questionable cited tyranny versus a very evil and malignant one.

Bottom line under yours and the seruvniks way there would be Less justice, less liberty and less safety for the civilized world.

Please excuse me if I am not rushing to join the apparatchiks... er, I mean seruvniks on this one.

42 posted on 05/21/2002 12:43:01 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: Cobra Scott
I maintain that total annexation and assimilation, by force, is the only salvation they will know.

You must realize that the suicide bombings will continue under such a plan, and the necessity of "incursions" will be no less, and the euroweasles will become even more shrill in their idiotic condemnations.

Forget it, get it over with, throw the bums out.

43 posted on 05/21/2002 12:46:40 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: ThreeOfSeven
The Palestinians may still be able to assimilate themselves into a prosperous democracy, if they can finally shake off the Israeli occupation.

Every Muslim country except Turkey is autocratic. I.e. only one muslim country out of the 50 or 60 out there is democratic.

Sounds like pretty damn lousy odds to me.

44 posted on 05/21/2002 12:50:51 PM PDT by liberalism=failure
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To: Cobra Scott
I maintain that total annexation and assimilation, by force, is the only salvation they will know.

Where did you get the idea that Israel wants to assimilate the Palestinians?

45 posted on 05/21/2002 12:58:50 PM PDT by ThreeOfSeven
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To: Zviadist
Right you are. It was Hamas that the Israelis created and funded.

You are a malevolent idiot, Zviadist. This is the creator of Hamas:

Is that you, by any chance?

47 posted on 05/21/2002 1:18:35 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: ThreeOfSeven
This seems like a good thread for this link::

Libi - The Fund for Strengthening Israel's Defense,

48 posted on 05/21/2002 1:34:21 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Zviadist
Right you are. It was Hamas that the Israelis created and funded.

Your out there 'theories' are better suited to that other website. Where all manner of strange conspiracy theories, revisionist Middle East history, and more malevolent revisionst history rule the day.

49 posted on 05/21/2002 1:40:41 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Cachelot
You are a malevolent idiot, Zviadist. This is the creator of Hamas:

Why am I not surprised to see that you continue to flout the rules here as you wallow in the sewer of your obsessive hatred and racism and its manifestation in personal attack.

On the specifics, however, I guess those respected international news organizations that report on this are just either self-hating or Pali propagandists:

Israeli support for Islamic extremists, as an opposition force to the secular pro-PLO movement, eventually blew up in Israel's face. Hamas, for example, which was born out of the Moslem Brotherhood with Israeli encouragement, is to this day a central factor in the Palestinian resistance and political system.

50 posted on 05/21/2002 1:50:36 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: veronica
Your out there 'theories' are better suited to that other website.

Interesting, in taking another very close look at the rules and mission statement of this website, of which I have been a member rather longer than you have, never have I seen it written that "only people who agree with Veronica are welcome at Free Republic." Did I perhaps miss some fine print?

51 posted on 05/21/2002 1:52:23 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: liberalism=failure
I think that's a given regardless.

However, given total police control, it would be far easier to infiltrate the palestinian ranks and nip more of it in the bud. At least I think it would be. I think the Israelis handicap themselves currently, because their response is an all-or-nothing venue; roll in with the IDF, or back off and let the pot boil over some more.

52 posted on 05/21/2002 1:56:16 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: ThreeOfSeven
I'm willing to bet that a fair number of Israelis would not mind assimillating the palis, assuming that each recieves a thorough screening, and troublemakers eliminated.
53 posted on 05/21/2002 1:59:22 PM PDT by Cobra Scott
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To: Zviadist
Interesting, in taking another very close look at the rules and mission

I think the owner has stated pretty clearly that he doesn't want antisemites here. Your post from that other, rather Nazi-oriented forum (remember that one? Want me to post it again?) marks you as surely as if you had the swastika burned between your eyes. Take your replacement-wetdreams and crawl away to "Pastor" Kreis and the rest of your "spiritual brothers".

54 posted on 05/21/2002 2:15:14 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
I think the owner has stated pretty clearly that he doesn't want antisemites here.

Which is and has always been fine with me.

You will not find, in the four years I have posted here, a single anti-semitic comment. Yet when you are proven incorrect, as you were above, you never fail to divert attention to the weakness of your arguments by screaming "anti-Semite!" It is getting pretty old by now.

No, I have never posted an anti-semitic comment here. I cannot same the same for you and your buddies, sadly enough. Physician, heal thyself. Your hatred and racism spews forth here non-stop.

55 posted on 05/21/2002 2:26:33 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
Or would you rather have a selection of your stupid Lenin stuff?

Geez. The creatures we get on here :)).

56 posted on 05/21/2002 2:27:04 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Zviadist
No, I have never posted an anti-semitic comment here

Rotfl. Do you mean that you try and hold yourself in check until you get off to where you have a more sympathetic public?

57 posted on 05/21/2002 2:29:15 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Your post from that other, rather Nazi-oriented forum (remember that one? Want me to post it again?

You are pathetic. Isn't it rather more Nazi-like to go slinking around the Internet desperate for information to discredit people? You remind me of those pathetic scoundrels during the Soviet times, who would get their kicks out of denouncing people with false information just to see them sent to the gulag. I bet you are really proud of yourself. But what are you, with an attitude like that, doing on a website called "Free Republic"? Surely there is a Communist revisionist website out there where you can practice the lost art of political denunciation, isn't there?

For the record, I have never posted here or elsewhere anything that could remotely be considered anti-semitic. Again, I cannot say the same for you.

58 posted on 05/21/2002 2:30:51 PM PDT by Zviadist
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To: Cachelot; Zviadist
Your post from that other, rather Nazi-oriented forum (remember that one? Want me to post it again?) marks you as surely as if you had the swastika burned between your eyes.

Yes, and marking people is your specialty, Cachelot. You want to make sure that everyone knows who the nazis are and what forums are nazistic. Well, I don't think anyone needs you, or Jesse Jackson, or whoever, telling us who gets to wear the scarlet "N." If you have nothing better to do than bully people than go find join up with the rainbow coalition. Then you can fully pursue your quest of identifying the "cancer of hate" and excising it through boycotts and protests and other generally uppity and obnoxious manners of squelching debate.

Freegards.

59 posted on 05/21/2002 2:33:40 PM PDT by Freetus
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To: Cachelot
Or would you rather have a selection of your stupid Lenin stuff?

I cannot help but laugh at your obsession with a site that are not a member of. How much time to you spend on other sites collecting information on others? Here's an idea for you: how about if you get a life.

60 posted on 05/21/2002 2:34:13 PM PDT by Zviadist
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