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Arlington VA County Board Threatens Eminent Domain for "Affordable Housing"! Smoking Gun!
The Washington Times ^ | 5/23/2002 | Mary Shaffrey

Posted on 05/23/2002 4:31:24 AM PDT by chambley1

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To: elfman2
And you're grossly misrepresenting it if you call it stealing and fail to mention that they're paid a fair market price, or at least supposed to be.

I see no mention of fair market price in the definition of steal.

steal   Pronunciation Key  (stl)
v. stole, (stl) sto·len, (stln) steal·ing, steals
v. tr.
  1. To take (the property of another) without right or permission.

The problem is with the right to do such a thing. The government can and does abuse the rights given to it by the people.

41 posted on 05/23/2002 8:26:26 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: VillageDamien
My property valuation has risen 50 percent over the last two years - and I have to live with an impassable route 1 running through the neighborhood and all the disruption associated with multiple simultaneous large scale commericial developments due to the board rezoning areas. When did the board rezone anything commercial in north arlington? The last i heard you all were rioting because marymount university cut down a few bushes to put in a parking lot.
42 posted on 05/23/2002 8:30:08 AM PDT by QuestionBureaucracy
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To: chambley1
At over $75,000 per unit Hall will do very well, and the taxpayers will take it in the shorts once more. And the county will sustain their violent, not all that multicolored housing.
43 posted on 05/23/2002 8:49:46 AM PDT by lodwick
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To: AppyPappy
Affordable housing is the socialist code word for rent control applied to buying homes.

Before the Clintoon left, the system was rigged to force Fanny and Ginnie to make loans to inner city bad credit risks.

We have had battles with this Bravo Sierra for decades out here.

The usual villians are the diversity/multi cultural thugs, the elite liberals and enviro whackos. It is their way of ghettoing homes in certain areas. That ends up increasing the home values outside of those areas way beyond normal appreciation due to less supply of homes/lands for normal housing.

If we can ever get a couple of more conservative judges on Scotus, there are contractors out in the West ready to take this to Scotus re the whole fascist/socialist concept of affordable housing.

To finance this in our area, if you build a new home or add a new room on your current home, the fees/charges for affordable housing will cost more than the wood used in the new home or new room. This is a hidden tax as only those buying a new home or adding a room have to pay. Again this drives up the value of homes in the area.

44 posted on 05/23/2002 8:50:32 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: chambley1
Sounds a bit like the scenario in Ayn Rand's book, " The Fountainhead".
45 posted on 05/23/2002 8:59:42 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Dave in Eugene of all places
AMEN!
46 posted on 05/23/2002 9:08:18 AM PDT by bandlength
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To: chambley1
So, let's see - The property is already on the market. If they want to buy it, they just need to pay the market price. Eminent domain requires that they pay market value for the property, so why do they need eminent domain to force an owner to sell something which is already for sale?

Unless, of course, they are trying to get away with paying less than market value...

47 posted on 05/23/2002 9:08:22 AM PDT by LouD
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To: chambley1
bump for later
48 posted on 05/23/2002 9:25:40 AM PDT by the bottle let me down
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To: swampfox98
Could it be that is only ploy being used by the liberals to gain even more Democrat voters in the next election?

Since they're all in one place they can load them all on buses.

49 posted on 05/23/2002 9:52:06 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: FateAmenableToChange
Especially since only 2 years ago the Arlington County gov't permitted the razing of the entire Arna Valley housing complex so that nice condos could be built at the Glebe Rd. / I 395 interchange.

Why don't you check to see if the same cast of characters or development company is involved in this one too? Or do I owe the Demon an apology for being suspicious of his lying a**.

50 posted on 05/23/2002 9:58:37 AM PDT by Ender@Game.now
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To: countrydummy
Unfortunately, your letter has no relevence to the issue. The feds are not trying to get this property it is the COUNTY.
51 posted on 05/23/2002 10:25:55 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: *landgrab;sauropod;madfly
fyi
52 posted on 05/23/2002 10:29:36 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: LouD
OR nothing at all as in the case of rottenchester NY. . .
53 posted on 05/23/2002 10:30:26 AM PDT by bandlength
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To: elfman2
Your mechanism is flawed. Wages will not go up if businesses leave quite the opposite.

BTAIM, the reason there is so little unaffordable housing is because there are so many unaffordable people. Like locusts they descend on an area and destroy all before them. Newly erected buildings look like crap within a couple of years as they wreck what is given to them and reduce the stock available for others.

54 posted on 05/23/2002 10:30:50 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: lasereye
Won't have to, just put a polling place in the comlex.
55 posted on 05/23/2002 10:40:52 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: countrydummy
Is this the link you requested?

EMINENT DOMAIN CONFERENCE - MAY 29, 2002 - NEW YORK CITY
personal e-mail to me. | May 23, 2002 | Institute for Justice
Posted on 5/23/02 9:48 AM Pacific by sauropod

56 posted on 05/23/2002 10:49:30 AM PDT by madfly
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bump
57 posted on 05/23/2002 10:50:54 AM PDT by madfly
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To: AndrewC
"I see no mention of fair market price in the definition of steal."

If you pretend to not recognize the necessity that a discussion of what might or might not be an ethically legitimate government taking for property should also note that it's both constitutionally authorized and paid for, then you're behaving as an ideologue, ignore facts that you don't like. In that case half your potential audience will tune you out.

58 posted on 05/23/2002 11:28:32 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: swampfox98
Bump!
59 posted on 05/23/2002 11:35:20 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Your mechanism is flawed. Wages will not go up if businesses leave quite the opposite."

Your understanding of my list of mechanisms is flawed. Any of the first 3 causes and effects, or the 4th item, could happen. Of course the cause of the first does not lead to the cause of the second.

- Businesses relocate, bringing down the demand and price of housing.
- Wages go up to retain people, making more housing 'affordable'.
- The demand and price for affordable housing becomes so great that it's profitable to build.
- Businesses build or buy their own if they can't wait for this kind of natural equilibrium.
As a financial analyst your should have recognized that. I also disagree with what you think is the source of the problem in the scenario that you described. Most of the human race will destroy what's given to them. The problem is that it's 'given' to them.
60 posted on 05/23/2002 11:44:01 AM PDT by elfman2
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