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Sahas find support from outside the city [abuse of eminent domain in Coatesville PA]
Daily Local News [West Chester PA] ^ | 6/5/02 | Bajeerah Lowe

Posted on 06/05/2002 6:15:01 AM PDT by calvin sun

Dick Saha stands in front of the Chester County Courthouse in West Chester. The Sahas' fight against Coatesville from taking away their land for the regional recreation center has gained support from outside the city.
VALLEY -- Roy Waggoner is a 19-year-old from McPherson, Kan. He has never been to Coatesville or Valley, much less heard of them ..until recently.

But he is among a group of a growing number of individuals from all over the country voicing their opinions on Coatesville's regional recreation center and the city's eminent domain actions.

"We've had e-mails from people in Alaska, California and Texas," said Dick Saha, a Valley resident who has been battling the city to keep his farm for more than three years. Coatesville plans to use the Sahas' property as part of the land for the golf course within the recreation center. The center is also slated to include an indoor/outdoor family entertainment center, indoor ice rink and hotel and conference center.

Saha said since his family's plight has hit the national newswire and special interest Web sites, he has received dozens and dozens of e-mails and letters.

"I'm still trying to reply to them all," he said.

The e-mails have offered Web sites with information on eminent domain, groups that offer help, as well as money. "It's nice for someone to do that for someone that they don't even know," said Saha, who said he has received checks ranging from $5 to $100.

Waggoner found out about the Sahas' plight on a Web site's discussion forum where numerous postings have appeared over the last few weeks.

"I have been shocked the way the Sahas have been treated," said Waggoner. "..I would not be as angry if the town officials had at least shown they had a heart, but it is clear they do not. They are just creating a huge recreational complex and golf course out of desperation without an ounce of compassion for the people they are affecting and without regard to the spirit and intent of eminent domain."

Waggoner said he feels eminent domain is to be used only for specific purposes and the regional recreation center doesn't apply. "Eminent domain used to be invoked only if the proposed improvement was something beneficial to the entire community and important to public use," he said. "These days, it is being used to move in stores and recreation centers ..Capitalism is a good thing, but if a business can't find another spot to open, it should not get the bully pulpit of the government to provide a way to move into a place already filled."

While Waggoner's comments are coming from across the country, some of his feelings are also being echoed locally by Calvin Sun, a resident of Tredyffrin who has come to the last two city council meetings to show support for the Sahas.

Sun told council he opposed their actions to take the Saha property and felt it was a move of "fiscal irresponsibility" and would "do little to help revitalize Coatesville."

Paul G. Janssen Jr., Coatesville city manager, said responses such as these are simply those of gadflies. "They just like this sort of thing," he said, of the controversy surrounding the city's actions.

City council President Stephon Hines also noted the increase in people from outside the city coming to meetings and commenting on city affairs. "People attending our meetings and not residents of the city are putting the city down," he said at the city council meeting last week. "There is so much positive going on in this meeting that it is ridiculous to focus on the negative."

Sun said he understood where Hines was coming from. "I think council has the best interest of the city at heart," he said in a recent interview. But, he added, all the good work being done by the council for the city is being overshadowed by this one issue.

"(Eminent domain) is more than a local issue ..to me it's an attack on the fundamental right to private property," said Sun.

Sun said he felt the need to come to the Coatesville meetings after having dealt with a similar issue in his own neighborhood. "I want to send a message to other governments to use eminent domain in the proper way," he said.

Also involved in the protest that stopped the stadium from being built in Philadelphia's Chinatown, Sun said he has a particular problem with the Sahas' situation since it is a neighboring municipality coming in and condemning their land, not officials that the Sahas can vote for or against at election time.

"It is like taxation without representation, only in this case (it's) condemnation without representation," Sun said.

Support such as the Sahas have seen is coming from people who have seen or fear the same thing happening in their neighborhood, said John Chin, executive director of the Philadelphia Chinatown Development Corp.

Chin was heavily involved in the protests that prevented the city from building a stadium in Chinatown. His battle too saw support locally and from all over the nation. "Many people thought 'If this can happen to the Chinatown community, could it happen to ours?'" Chin said.

He said support such as this can certainly help situations such as that facing the Sahas. But Saha said while the support is encouraging he isn't sure what good it will do.

"It just gripes you the fact that they keep going," he said of the city. "I wonder if they even take notice of the support we're receiving."

©Daily Local News 2002

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TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: coatesville; condemnation; eminentdomain; landgrab
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Roy, if you're out there, thanks for talking with Ms. Lowe. Same for anyone else.
1 posted on 06/05/2002 6:15:02 AM PDT by calvin sun
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To: calvin sun

A bump for the Save Our Farm Group

I know so many golfers that will "not" be using this course. Unless This city manager knows where he can pull in lots of golfers from other states , his project is in major trouble. I am spreading the word among Chester County, Maryland and Delaware golfing chums. Government getting into the golfing business to compete against taxpaying private courses is ugly. I would suggest the Coatesville land thieves check into some of the situations facing a few Chester County course. TROUBLE! Too many courses and not enough people hitting a little white ball. The city of Coatesville needs more than a golf course.
2 posted on 06/05/2002 6:33:06 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: calvin sun
Maybe Paul G. Janssen Jr. and the rest of the Coatsville Communists should have this little gem pointed out to them-

US Code, Title 18, Part I Chapter 13, Sec. 241. - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory,
Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same;...(snip)
They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both;

Or Section 242 (of the same Title)- Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States,...(snip)
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year,...

Wouldn't THAT put their panties in a wad!

3 posted on 06/05/2002 7:24:36 AM PDT by MamaTexan
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To: *Landgrab;countrydummy;sauropod;madfly
Bump list and fyi
4 posted on 06/05/2002 9:51:59 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Free the USA
bump...there is another thread on this
5 posted on 06/05/2002 3:26:34 PM PDT by madfly
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To: calvin sun; oldironsides
Go here for same story:

Fighting to keep their Farm Intact

6 posted on 06/05/2002 3:35:27 PM PDT by madfly
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To: calvin sun;rwfromkansas
Roy, if you're out there, thanks for talking with Ms. Lowe. Same for anyone else.

It's just a guess...but I bet it's a pretty good guess ;)

7 posted on 06/05/2002 3:35:59 PM PDT by general_re
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To: calvin sun
holy smokes....I did not realize she would do a whole story mainly with my thoughts...lol.

I was glad to talk to her. I talked to her about her job etc. also since I am interested in journalism.

8 posted on 06/05/2002 6:02:01 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Rnmomof7
Look at this story....
9 posted on 06/05/2002 6:02:36 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: general_re
Yep, I am here.
10 posted on 06/05/2002 6:07:10 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas
Muahaha - my powers of deduction are working well. Not that it was very hard to guess...

19, huh? I would have pegged you for a little older than that. Hey, take it as a compliment ;)

11 posted on 06/05/2002 6:13:51 PM PDT by general_re
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To: general_re
I just hope my facts are right....everything that I have heard of regardig eminent domain is that it was not meant to be used just for anything, but its intent was to be used if the entire community would benefit of a needed service.
12 posted on 06/05/2002 6:15:11 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas
I think you're spot-on with that. And if that ain't the way it actually is...well, hell, you can always argue that that's how it should be ;)
13 posted on 06/05/2002 6:17:33 PM PDT by general_re
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To: rwfromkansas;Rnmomof7;DittoJed2;Jerry_M;Vmatt;OrthodoxPresbyterian;JeanChauvin;Wrigley;CCWoody...
Good work, Roy! We're proud of you!

And I think I speak for all of us Calvinists when I say I'm glad you're on our side!

14 posted on 06/05/2002 10:35:51 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: calvin sun
And good for you, too, Calvin Sun.

I like your name. 8~)

15 posted on 06/05/2002 10:38:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: rwfromkansas
Way to GO Roy..you know this was a predestined event in your life...:>))) I am proud of you...are you up for adoption?
16 posted on 06/05/2002 10:57:13 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Dr. Eckleburg;Calvin sun
Holy cow I missed that...........just too many "coincidences " for one day:>))
17 posted on 06/05/2002 10:58:43 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
My pastor and his wife said they are my "foster parents" when I go to college in the fall in Sterling, where my church and their residence is (i.e....food, a place to hang out etc). But hey, another foster parent is okay with me...:)
18 posted on 06/05/2002 11:09:54 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: rwfromkansas
Hey you can transfer to the University of Buffalo and hang out here..
19 posted on 06/05/2002 11:11:49 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7;rwfromkansas
Way to GO Roy..you know this was a predestined event in your life...:>))) I am proud of you...are you up for adoption?

No way - he free willed it ;-P

Excellent work young man !

20 posted on 06/06/2002 3:50:55 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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