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Notable Moments for Kennedy Clan
AP ^ | 6/8/02 | AP

Posted on 06/08/2002 7:22:15 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun

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To: ClearCase_guy
in the eyes of the Church, his children are bastards.

Wrong. In canon law if one of the parents believed him/herself to be validly married then the children are not bastards.

21 posted on 06/08/2002 9:24:48 AM PDT by arthurus
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Trash by any other name is still trash!
22 posted on 06/08/2002 9:25:44 AM PDT by Clifdo
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To: ClearCase_guy
So, he successfully petitioned for an annulment which means that in the eyes of the Church, his children are bastards.

Absolute nonsense. This is a persistent myth, which, incidentally, does a lot of harm. People who are entitled to an annulment often shy away from the process out of fear of "having my children declared bastards."

When the Church declares a marriage null, it is declaring that it was gravely defective from the beginning, defective enough so as not to bind the parties. But it does NOT declare that there was no bond whatever, or that there was no belief on the part of the parties that they were married, or that they were "living in sin," or that there was no LEGAL marriage. The legitimacy of the children is not an issue at all. Children born in a putative marriage, even one later judged to have been defective, are legitimate.

23 posted on 06/08/2002 10:10:06 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ClearCase_guy
he successfully petitioned for an annulment which means that in the eyes of the Church, his children are bastards.

An annulment means that no sacramental marriage existed.

If a marriage under civil law occurred, the kids are not bastards.

A google search on "annulment" "bastards" will give you lots of sites explaining this.
24 posted on 06/08/2002 10:15:48 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko
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To: ClearCase_guy
Joseph P. Kennedy sought to end his marriage after some 10 years or so and, being Catholic, could not get a divorce. So, he successfully petitioned for an annulment

Didn't Ted Kennedy do the same thing to his first ex-wife? I've forgotten how many ex's he has -- is it two, and the current one is number 3?

It's so hard to keep up with these people.

25 posted on 06/08/2002 10:28:02 AM PDT by reformed_democrat
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
but his service in the war did him credit...

What service? Losing his command craft in what amounted to a traffic accident, because he posted no lookouts?

Much has been made of his "heroic" efforts to salvage his crew after the PT 109 was sunk, but that was his duty, as the commanding officer, and after having totally hosed his mision, wouldn't it be about time this Hyannisport yachtsman-playboy got a little serious about something such as a "war"?

No, the entire myth about his "heroism" is cut from whole cloth, much like the entire "Camelot" myth, and was done to ensure his future, political viability...

the infowarrior

26 posted on 06/08/2002 10:32:07 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: anniegetyourgun
Anybody else reminded of Faust?
27 posted on 06/08/2002 10:34:04 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: ClearCase_guy
So, he successfully petitioned for an annulment which means that in the eyes of the Church, his children are bastards

What? They are "no true issue" ?

Sort of ratifies my opinion of the lot of them.

28 posted on 06/08/2002 10:36:23 AM PDT by Ole Okie
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No, the entire myth about his "heroism" is cut from whole cloth, much like the entire "Camelot" myth, and was done to ensure his future, political viability...

I suggest you read the article in American Heritage a few years back by one of the other PT boat commanders involved in the battle in which his boat was lost. I didn't make a fetish out of his "heroism", I said:

H[e] ... served honorably ... in WW-II. Admittedly no more honorably and bravely than many thousands of other Americans.

John Kennedy was elected president at a time when politics - and life in general - in this country was far less vitriolic than these days. And the two parties were much closer than today. JFK's politics were not far from Ron Reagan's.

The Democrats appropriated the public grief for a handsome young president to make JFK a symbol of policies he never endorsed nor would ever have imagined. His relatives, near and ever more distant, bask in an undeserved glow from the goodwill he left. But does this require us to unfairly besmirch the reputation someone who isn't here to defend himself?

29 posted on 06/08/2002 1:55:50 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets
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but his service in the war did him credit...

What service? Losing his command craft in what amounted to a traffic accident

He was banished to the South Pacific after he was cashiered from his cushy duty with Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) when he was caught by the F.B.I. in bed with Inga "Binga" Arvad, a suspected Nazi agent...

30 posted on 06/08/2002 1:56:08 PM PDT by SR71A
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