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What s Wrong With a Cross at the WTC?
FoxNews ^ | July 19 2002 | Hannity & Colmes

Posted on 06/19/2002 1:59:15 PM PDT by Michael2001

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:34:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: JediGirl
"Here's a great source for atheistm-related merchandise: Landover Baptist Church"

I love their site! I get their monthly newsletter delivered straight into my inbox. Great stuff.

Is there some reason all the women at Landover Baptist Church have hairdos the size of small planetary systems? :-)

161 posted on 06/21/2002 7:39:22 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: CaptainAwesome
it is such a joke that people want it there.

Well, it's not to many millions of good Americans.

162 posted on 06/21/2002 8:28:17 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: CaptainAwesome
maybe pens and pencils do have a profound significance to a majority of americans

We both know perfectly well that pens and pencils do NOT have the same sort of meaning to most Americans that the cross of Christ does. It's ninnyannish to suggest otherwise.

163 posted on 06/21/2002 8:31:51 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: CaptainAwesome
anyway, the cross has no place in the memorial because there is no point in it being there

Yes, but for millions of Christian Americans it DOES have a point in being there. You may not understand it. If so, just ignore it. It's not hurting you in some way, is it?

164 posted on 06/21/2002 8:33:20 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: The Conservative Atheist
No one erected a cross. And you obviously have no ability of discernment.
166 posted on 06/22/2002 11:13:38 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: The Conservative Atheist
AS I said before, if they'd found a Star of David in the rubble and displayed it, I would be happy for my Jewish brethren. I wouldn't be so insecure as to think the federal government were declaring Judaism the national religion.
167 posted on 06/22/2002 11:15:28 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: The Conservative Atheist
I already have.
169 posted on 06/22/2002 7:50:34 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: The Conservative Atheist
A world without religion would be a very peaceful world. Statiscally, there are probably other planets out there very similar to ours and just as on earth, their inhabitants have probably also invented gods, fearing inevitable death and the posiblity of that's all there is.
170 posted on 06/22/2002 8:12:51 PM PDT by balls
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To: The Conservative Atheist
You think that there should only be Christian and Jewish monuments and symbols on public property, but not any other kind having to do with any other religion or faith. Isn't that right? Yeah, I thought so.

You sure do like to tell me what I think. Rather presumptuous, no? I will answer your question honestly, and in more detail (though I thought you could discern the answer already). If any symbol of just about any well-meaning group were pulled out of the rubble, it wouldn't bother me the least to have it prominently displayed (not as an endorsement by the government, just as a recognition of something unusal and meaningful (for many). If a symbol of Buddhism or the Bicycle Rider's Club of American or of the country of Romania were pulled out, it would be fine with me to display it. (And again, I'm not so insecure, as many atheists are, to think that that would respresent the government's starting a state religion (which is what so many of them are always saying)! With regard to the pentagram, however, for a great many (probably the majority), it's a symbol of evil and malevolent acts and forces. For many, it sybolizes the devil, and those acts attributed to the devil: murder, the stealing of souls, the ruining of lives, the corruption of souls. I think any discerning public official would see that that is not something that the majority of people in the society (including atheists) would want to draw attention to. Similarly, wouldn't want to see symbols of groups whose intent it is to harm others (the KKK, as an example). So, there's your answer. Here a question for you? Wht is it that's so painful for you about seeing a cross that was found in the rubble? Do you really think the US government is establishing Christianity as a state religion by displaying a piece of wreckage that just happened to be found there? C'mon. It seems pretty ridiculous (and insecure) to me! Has anyone ever in your entire life prevented you from practicing your non-belief in God? I doubt it.

172 posted on 06/23/2002 12:42:49 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: The Conservative Atheist
Fair enough!
174 posted on 06/23/2002 1:35:32 PM PDT by yendu bwam
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