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Dollar going down fast....under 107... chart link
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Posted on 06/25/2002 8:10:33 PM PDT by BlackJack

With Worldcom news out, futures down and US Dollar going down hard tonight. Click INO Charts


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To: Alberta's Child
I suspect that most foreign investors are smart enough to realize that the identity of the U.S. president has almost nothing to do with how they will make their investment decisions.

The U.S. dollar is plunging for two reasons: 1) interest rates in the U.S. are at or near historic lows, and 2) corporate America's earnings estimates are an absolute joke.

As you hunker down and savor these thoughts, I intend to continue over-weighting my stock portfolio with small caps -- as corporate America collapses, savvy investors are going to realize that small companies with simple balance sheets and well-defined product and service lines are the only places that produce anything close to reliable financial reports.

I'd add 3: There's some uncertanty over whether or not there will be another terrorist attack in the US.

Good post, Alberta's Child! It just so happens that I'm big on 4 things myself: Cash, Small caps, mid caps, and a little physical precious metal. I've always been a bit conservative with investments anyways, though I was lucky enough to rebalance my 401k more heavily towards cash in Feb of 2000.

21 posted on 06/25/2002 8:44:13 PM PDT by meyer
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To: monkeyshine
bump
22 posted on 06/25/2002 8:45:03 PM PDT by d4now
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To: AAABEST
Why do you think they call it REAL property?

Well, in that case, I think your opportunity will arise shortly if you have the dough. I think my 'hood got built just in time as I think that the building industry needs to hunker down for a couple of years.

Oh, and I actually do have some rather fancy crispy paper form the 1980's. It says "LTV" on it. Its from before the first bankruptcy.

23 posted on 06/25/2002 8:47:33 PM PDT by meyer
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To: AAABEST
Actually I like land and the improvements that go with it. Why do you think they call it REAL property?

If you lived in Hong Kong, you would have seen that real property decline in value by up to 60% over the past few years.

24 posted on 06/25/2002 8:48:14 PM PDT by Black Powder
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To: Black Powder
If you lived in Hong Kong, you would have seen that real property decline in value by up to 60% over the past few years.

Buying opportunity?

25 posted on 06/25/2002 8:48:59 PM PDT by meyer
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To: ex-Texan
Ooop! Meant $ 500 Million a week not the B word.
26 posted on 06/25/2002 8:49:54 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: BlackJack
Thanks for the "ino.com" link -- I hadn't heard of them before, and they have good charts.
27 posted on 06/25/2002 8:51:49 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: meyer
If you lived in the bay area in 1990 you would have seen the same results. Supply & Demand and other factors do play into the sceaniro. Been to Hong Kong. We have more land, better diverisfication and only those we can squash.
28 posted on 06/25/2002 8:52:19 PM PDT by davisdoug
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To: meyer
There's some uncertanty over whether or not there will be another terrorist attack in the US.

That's an interesting point, but I think this point tends to be overemphasized. When you think about it, what good will it do anyone to have yen or euros in their pockets if the world's largest, most affluent consumer base is under duress? I think any savvy investor will realize that the rest of the world would be impacted by a terrorist attack on the U.S. far more than the U.S. would be impacted itself.

As I look at all of the indicators I see a declining stock market and a declining dollar, but a robust real estate market and unemployment rates that are the envy of the world. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the rest of the world is telling us that our government is sh!t and our major corporations are sh!t, but our nation is still very strong.

29 posted on 06/25/2002 8:53:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: meyer
If you lived in Hong Kong, you would have seen that real property decline in value by up to 60% over the past few years.

Buying opportunity?

Only if you expect the value to rise within a reasonable amount of time, which it won't.

Reminds me of a friend who bought Nortel Networks at $20/share after it dropped from $80 because he thought it was a buying opportunity. Nortel shares are currently somewhere between 2 and 3 dollars.

30 posted on 06/25/2002 8:55:15 PM PDT by Black Powder
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To: marcleblanc
Actually a weak dollar is good for the US economy too. It will help take money from other economies by making US products less expensive.

This is part of the business cycle. We need this to help our economy. We've been sending our money out bigtime during the 90's...now it's time to get some of it back.

31 posted on 06/25/2002 8:55:36 PM PDT by for-q-clinton
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To: TBall
One of the Dem mantras of the 92 campaign was that the prosperity of the Reagan years "wasn't real" because it wasn't sustained....

I'd laugh, but my income is tied to the markets.

32 posted on 06/25/2002 9:00:04 PM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Alberta's Child
As I look at all of the indicators I see a declining stock market and a declining dollar, but a robust real estate market and unemployment rates that are the envy of the world. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the rest of the world is telling us that our government is sh!t and our major corporations are sh!t, but our nation is still very strong.

Its really weird, but I'm afraid that too many people have a very short memory. We are pretty close to where we were, what, a couple of years ago as far as foreign exchange is concerned. That is certainly not the end of the world.

Foreign investors are pulling out a bit, but not due to faith or lack of faith in the US. They are pretty big into the stock market as well as T-bonds. Basically, the US money and stock markets have attracted tons of foreign investment and that has been what has sustained the dollar v. other currencies.

I really think that the rest of the world is basically putting their money where they think it will do the best, just like any other investor.

BTW, a devalued dollar isn't the end of the world; it makes US manufacturing cheaper as compared to foreign manufacturing. IOW, it might improve the trade balance a bit.

33 posted on 06/25/2002 9:01:56 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Alberta's Child
Trade deficit about 1 billion a day.....and now the budget deficit
is running 1 billion a day. Thats the reason for the fall of US dollar.
Non-US investors will sell US stocks because its a double hit for them.....down stock + down dollar. Markets will go down a lot from here.....commodities will do better over next couple years. Weak dollar could spark inflation.....or.....falling demand could lead to
deflation. We might see deflation first.....then hyperinflation.
Or.....I could be wrong! Who knows.
34 posted on 06/25/2002 9:03:04 PM PDT by BlackJack
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To: Black Powder
Its so hard to find the bottom...
35 posted on 06/25/2002 9:03:22 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Black Powder
If you lived in Hong Kong, you would have seen that real property decline in value by up to 60% over the past few years.

The idea that one should be able to make a lot of money off of investments in a short period of time is an unwise and probably a fairly modern concept, even the bible says something about slowly plodding.

I don't know about Hong Kong, but my property is my property no matter if a Nuke landed tomorrow. Real property is real, with the exception of California which is not a real place.

Every time a tenant pays rent, and you use that rent to pay principle they're putting money in the bank for you in the form of equity. Every time the value of the property goes up your net worth increases. Every time we have inflation your net worth and your rent goes up. When we have defaltion your rents don't go down, (although you may have more trouble keeping qualified tenants). Every dollar above the loan payoffs and expenses is postive cash flow.

All for mundane task of walking to your mailbox every month and plucking out a check. I don't see how you can beat that.

Disclaimer: I'm just some schmuck with 2 stupid pieces of property (working on a third I hope) who doesn't know much about economics but knows a little bit about property.

36 posted on 06/25/2002 9:07:02 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Alberta's Child; meyer
Care to give some examples of small caps?

Is there a list?

Do these small cap companies' shares sell under a certain price?

I take it IBM isn't a small cap.
37 posted on 06/25/2002 9:08:54 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: BlackJack
Or.....I could be wrong! Who knows.

I don't think you're wrong about the deficit spending. Why would free marketeers be confortable with our government growing nearly out of control? Why should they feel that we're any different than Europe anymore? Freemarketeers like freedom, not huge deficits and big government.

Mattafact, at least the Euro-supjects have their socailism built into their pathetic system.

We were always looked upon as "different". Maybe us being not so "different" any more has some second guessing. I don't know how much this has to do with what's happening but I know it has something to do with what's happening.

38 posted on 06/25/2002 9:12:41 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: WillaJohns
I take it IBM isn't a small cap.

LOL!

39 posted on 06/25/2002 9:14:03 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: gjpino
You give a President too much credit. The world used to have more confidence in our government, corporate, and financial institutions than they did their own. But our institutions have revealed themselves as sorely lacking, and now there is no stability premium attached to the dollar. Bush might be wise to put aside his grand plan to finish what his daddy started in Iraq and put some attention into figuring out how to restore some confidence in our government,financial, and religious institutions which are stinking up the country and giving the Eurotrash the satisfaction of believing that the United States is no longer morally superior to what is acceptable by their pathetic bureaucratic standards of operation.
40 posted on 06/25/2002 9:15:08 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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