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This was a hotly debated item on the Illinois Freeper Board (I resisted chiming in this time, although I did send an email to the LPI Sec. noting that his party had done the SAME thing in Mass.-- I got no responce) Thought we might want to post it here to see everyone's reactions.

How about, Republican and LP freepers? Why is it GOOD when Howell supports this but bad when Jim Ryan does?

1 posted on 06/26/2002 3:18:57 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John; RedWing9; TheRightGuy; justshutupandtakeit; spintreebob; Thebaddog; ...
Thought you folks might be interested in seeing this...

BTW, sometimes it's not even a party vs. party issue. Here in Illinois' 18th Senate District, the Chicago machine in the 19th ward almost got Mary Nolan, a fellow DEMOCRAT, kicked off the primary ballot. They wanted a Chicago machine loyalist to AUTOMATICALLY "inherit" O'Malley's seat and vote the way Mike Madigan tells him too. But the local Dems wanted someone who would be loyal to the suburbs first, so they ran a regional candidate from Oak Lawn. Much to our dismay, the local Democrat "leaders" put the loyality of the big city bosses over loyality to their towns, and backed Maloney. But Nolan managed to withstand a huge party beating, got back on the ballot by election day...but lost to Maloney.

2 posted on 06/26/2002 3:29:50 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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To: BillyBoy
Carla is not a real Libertarian & Ryan is not a real Conservative.
3 posted on 06/26/2002 3:30:59 PM PDT by aynrandfreak
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To: BillyBoy
Please. With friends like The Libertarian Party as it is currently governed and overseen, libertarians don't need enemies. I mean, the idiots are still going to admit Harry Browne as one of the party convention's featured speakers - despite his having traduced the party rules on party workers actively working in the employ or on behalf otherwise of a candidate before the candidate has the party's official nomination; despite a top LP official's fiscal improprieties on behalf of Browne and his campaigns (with Browne's approval and subsequent mealymouthed excuses until he was finally forced to admit whoops!), to which said official finally admitted (albeit at figurative gunpoint). I could be out of line here, but I thought that was part of the bullsqueeze - in hand with the political hypocrisies - that led people out of the Major Parties and to such as the LP, and that wasn't supposed to drive them out.
4 posted on 06/26/2002 3:36:31 PM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: BillyBoy
I'm sorry, but I'm soooo sick of this. The word is HYPOCRISY, not "hypocracy," which would seem, from the Greek, to be some kind of rule by the underclass.

Please update your lexicon.

5 posted on 06/26/2002 3:41:37 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier
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To: BillyBoy
I am curious. Why did you use such tiny type? Did your scroll bar break down?

I am not sure but I think, from what I could read of your post, that the difference is that in the governers race the Republican canadate is behind the effort to check signatures where in the Senate race it was the MA. election board which was behind the effort. Its bad publicity for the Republicans in that respect.

9 posted on 06/26/2002 4:13:39 PM PDT by monday
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To: BillyBoy
Tempests in teapots are the stuff of village idiots and senators. Libertarianism doesn't enter into it.
12 posted on 06/26/2002 4:26:27 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: BillyBoy
Aren't you one of them Republicans that live in glass houses?
13 posted on 06/26/2002 4:28:58 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: BillyBoy
You are making a huge leap here. Carla Howell did not spend her huge muscle power to take down the Republican candidate. Jim Ryan, on the other hand, is using the whole Republican machinery to take down Cal Skinner. This is such a cheap thing to do. This will totally backfire if the election board rules against Ryan, or if a judge reinstates Skinner to the ballot. Why is Jim Ryan so afraid of him? Why can't he go to the voters and try to prove that he is better than Skinner instead of following such a slimy way.
22 posted on 06/27/2002 7:33:23 AM PDT by Satadru
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To: BillyBoy
How about, Republican and LP freepers? Why is it GOOD when Howell supports this but bad when Jim Ryan does?

BB you have some bad information here. Carla Howell did not oppose Jackie Robinson's (R) appearance on the ballot. The MA Libertarian party had the opportunity to appeal the Sec. of State's obvious bending of the rules to getting their token Republican on the ballot. Carla would have nothing to do with it and said so.

Carla nearly matched the Republican vote count for that Senate race. No other third party even came close. In Mass., there are no other credible third parties other than the Libertarians.

And now in this year's Senate race, the Republicans didn't get anyone on the ballot. The Libertarians are there and will again far outpace all other third party candidates in that race.

29 posted on 06/27/2002 8:45:49 PM PDT by larrysav
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