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Man Casts First Stone
Nature ^ | 6-21-2002 | John Whitfield

Posted on 06/27/2002 3:31:49 PM PDT by blam

Man casts first stone

Stockpiling rocks as weapons may have preceded sculpting them into tools.

21 June 2002
JOHN WHITFIELD

A thrown rock can carry the force of a revolver bullet.

Our instinctive feel for the ideal projectile could explain the design of hand-grenades, the collecting habits of geologists, the size of handballs and the weight of the imperial pound, says an engineer.

Understanding that instinct could illuminate the lives of prehistoric hominids, believes Alan Cannell, who lives in Curitiba, Brazil. He thinks that selecting and stockpiling rocks as weapons may have preceded sculpting them into tools1.

For millennia, a thrown rock - which can carry the force of a revolver bullet - was probably our ancestors' most potent weapon against predators or competitors. But the rock needs to have the right mass: too light, and it won't do any damage; too heavy, and it can't be thrown with much force.

Cannell gave a group of young men a choice of rocks weighing between 180 and 1,900 grams, and told them to throw one at a target with the intention of causing maximum damage.

They all chose a rock weighing 480 grams. A mechanical analysis, based on arm length and strength, showed that this is very close to the weight that a man can throw with the most force.

Cannell also weighed the samples that had been picked up by geologists and deposited in his local museum. They averaged about 500 grams - this weight 'felt right', some of the researchers told him.

Most hand-grenades, he found, weigh just below 500 grams. And a men's handball weighs 455 grams. Our seemingly ingrained love of approximately half-kilogram weights may even explain the pound: it is 454 grams.

A women's handball weighs 365 grams. In Cannel's rock-choice experiment women liked 320-gram lumps - the weight they can lob with maximum force.

Rock steady

Many sites that were inhabited by humans' forebears are littered with rocks that seem to have been carried there but not turned into tools. These might have been hoarded for throwing, Cannell suggests.

"I can imagine hominids doing that," comments archaeologist Robin Dennell, of the University of Sheffield, UK. "For defensive purposes it makes a lot of sense."

I can imagine hominids hoarding rocks for throwing Robin Dennell, University of Sheffield

If prehistoric hominids did indeed select weapons from stony ground, the masses of the rocks at the places they lived should be similar, rather than a random selection. This mass would also tell us how big the hoarders were.

Cannell now wonders whether our brains might bear the marks of our rock-throwing past. He is teaming up with neuroscientists to see what happens when a person hurls a rock.

"We are looking for something hardwired that recognizes the ideal mass and is involved in throwing," he says. "This would show that throwing was, at some stage of our evolution, of vital importance."

References Cannell, A. Throwing behaviour and the mass distribution of geological hand samples, hand grenades and Olduvian manuports. Journal of Archaeological Science, 29, 335 - 339, (2002).


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1 posted on 06/27/2002 3:31:49 PM PDT by blam
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FYI.
3 posted on 06/27/2002 3:34:54 PM PDT by blam
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Well as you know the Palestinians after years of stoning Jews have now run out of rocks!...It was announced that they will be stepping up their terror by going to the old bucket of water over the door trick!
4 posted on 06/27/2002 3:36:23 PM PDT by Republicus2001
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Cannell now wonders whether our brains might bear the marks of our rock-throwing past. He is teaming up with neuroscientists to see what happens when a person hurls a rock.

Has he reached his level of incompetence yet??????
5 posted on 06/27/2002 3:39:42 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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Cannell now wonders whether our brains might bear the marks of our rock-throwing past.

We have known this for years, if not forever. Our upright posture and our brains evolved so we could throw rocks and hunt, mainly for rabbits.

6 posted on 06/27/2002 3:41:30 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: blam
That'll be interesting if they can find a "rock throwing" brain section. Probably a lot of good stuff in that area. Humans have a pretty impressive innate understanding of physics; our ability to catch is pretty impressive, but even in more subtle areas like the standard design of a barn door (the Z bracing) we've done stuff for centuries that we've only recently (relatively) had the science necessary to prove that it is actually the right way to do things. This section of the brain (if it's in a section) could provide some really amazing insights.
7 posted on 06/27/2002 3:47:58 PM PDT by discostu
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"Do you realize the math your brain does just to drive? Trigonometry, differential equations, integrals. Probably even some quantum activity, for all we know."

Yup. I read somewhere that a batter does 200 million calculations before swinging at a baseball.

10 posted on 06/27/2002 3:56:41 PM PDT by blam
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"Some men look upon a pile of rocks and see only rocks. Other men look at the same rocks and see a cathedral"............Antoine de Saint-Exupery.
11 posted on 06/27/2002 3:58:36 PM PDT by elbucko
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If you think about it little kids on tricycles are doing almost the same math. It's clearly something we "just know", really all the basics of survival (throw/ hunt, catch, manuever, build simple building) are sitting in some hind quarter of our brain and can be accessed pretty much from day 1.
12 posted on 06/27/2002 3:59:01 PM PDT by discostu
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Read at home Bump
13 posted on 06/27/2002 4:08:50 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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"We are looking for something hardwired that recognizes the ideal mass and is involved in throwing," he says

In artillery terminology it is called; "Solving for the Target Solution". Simply put, it is hitting what you aim at.

The computer used for the Nike Hercules Missile was the size of three refrigerators that did the computations for intercept at supersonic speeds. The laptop that I input this post on is many times more powerful than the Nike computer.

14 posted on 06/27/2002 4:17:28 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: blam
I've posted my hypothesis before:

Prometheus

Some theorize that man first walked erect,
To carry simple tools, or throw a spear,
The fossil record proves this incorrect:
Walking predates tools, two million years.

Others think that walking freed the hands,
To gather and to carry precious food,
But this selects the group and not the man,
And won't select at all when times are good.

I think 'twas fire that taught the ape to stand,
It's fearful, but it's pretty, warm and bright,
One stoopéd ape picked up a fire-brand,
And banished cold, and predators, and night.

Encumbered, thus unfettered, torch in hand,
An ape, tempered by fire, became a man.

Granted, I can't rule out that they were carrying rocks around as weapons, but it seems unlikely that they could carry enough rocks to represent a huge advantage over simply picking up whatever rocks were lying around. Throw one or two rocks and you've shot your wad. A stockpile is a big help, but there's no strong need to walk upright in order to make one; chimps could do it, if they had a mind for it.

15 posted on 06/27/2002 4:54:55 PM PDT by Physicist
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"Do you realize the math your brain does just to drive? Trigonometry, differential equations, integrals. Probably even some quantum activity, for all we know."

Actually it uses rules of thumb. No calculations involved, just lots of practice and an ability to learn quickly what works, what doesn't, and refine it.

If we had to use math every time we did anything it is likely we would not be able to cross the street without being run over. Our brains simply cannot calculate quickly enough.

Read "The Society of Mind" by Marvin Minsky for an interesting analysis of how the mind works.

16 posted on 06/27/2002 5:10:37 PM PDT by monday
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Check the Throwing Madonna by William Calvin. Dr. Calvin is a neurosurgeon. His hypothesis is that our large brains are the result of adaptation to throwing as a means of hunting. Basically, a lot of neurons are needed for the very fine timing required to hit something. These extra neurons were then available for things like speech and music (both of which require very fast acurate timing) and also thinking.
17 posted on 06/27/2002 5:11:39 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Physicist
Some theorize that man first walked erect,
To carry simple tools, or throw a spear,

But it was nothing more than looking direct
Over tall grass, to judge if game were near.

18 posted on 06/27/2002 5:11:45 PM PDT by RightWhale
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But it was nothing more than looking direct
Over tall grass, to judge if game were near.

Hmm.  Hominids had not yet invented meter...

19 posted on 06/27/2002 6:25:57 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: elbucko
"Some men look upon a pile of rocks and see only rocks. Other men look at the same rocks and see a cathedral"............Antoine de Saint-Exupery.

It seems that most men look upon a pile of rocks and see a realy neat collection of deadly weapons. Man's rise and affinity for weapons are intimately intertwined.

20 posted on 06/27/2002 7:14:57 PM PDT by marktwain
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