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Christianity Harmful to Animals, Says Animal Rights Godfather
cnsnews.com ^ | July 01, 2002 | Marc Morano

Posted on 07/02/2002 10:32:01 AM PDT by lasereye

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1 posted on 07/02/2002 10:32:01 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye
Peter Singer says?

This is the guy that advocates sex with animals, correct?

Ok, I'll take him seriously.
2 posted on 07/02/2002 10:41:29 AM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: lasereye
When asked by CNSNews.com why humans should not be able to eat animals when animals eat other animals, Singer acknowledged that humans have to be held to a different standard.

"Animals generally are not making moral choices. Animals are not the same as humans. They can't reflect on what they are doing and think about the alternatives. Humans can. So there is no reason for taking what they do as a sort of moral lesson for us to take. We're the ones who have to have the responsibility for making those choices," he said.

Hold it. Hold IT! I thought humans were no better than animals. Held to a higher standard? WHY?? If we're all the same, then we're all the same. Period.

What a nut-case.

3 posted on 07/02/2002 10:46:54 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: lasereye
I've long been struck that in virtually all translations of Genesis, including Torah, ...God said, "let us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness....", this plurality of which seems to suggest a pact between God and man, and even Being to that point.

If humans then, are the species most able to abstract information from their environment, and deriving meaning from it, even to the point of being able to alter that environment, then this plurality has that deep a meaning.

A certain beauty in this too is that it is not all inconsistent with what we can observe in nature.

4 posted on 07/02/2002 10:49:58 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Pyro7480
Singer bump
5 posted on 07/02/2002 10:52:15 AM PDT by College Repub
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To: lasereye
Singer also reiterated one of his most controversial positions regarding the right to kill a newborn infant within 28 days of birth if the infant is deemed "severely disabled." "If you have a being that is not sentient, that is not even aware, then the killing of that being is not something that is wrong in and of itself," he stated. "I think that a chimpanzee certainly has greater self-awareness than a newborn baby," he told CNSNews.com.

Very artful. Start with the position that a "severely disabled" infant might be fair game. Note that if something (like a "severely disabled" infant) is not self-aware then it mightbe OK to kill it. Then finish with the oh-so-casual statement that newborn infants (with no qualifier as to disablity) are not self-aware. Voila! Carte blanche for infanticide.

Of course, later on we discuss spiders and how it's wrong to kill them.

7 posted on 07/02/2002 10:58:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: lasereye
his mission is to challenge "this superiority of human beings," and he conceded that his ideas go very much against the grain of a country that mostly still believes in human superiority.

Have you ever read a novel written by a chimpanzee?
Sat on furniture constructed by chipmunks?
Browsed a website designed, coded and maintained by rottweilers?
Driven a car engineered by cats?
Been a patient at a hospital staffed by moose doctors and turkey nurses?

8 posted on 07/02/2002 11:03:05 AM PDT by Alouette
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"Animals generally are not making moral choices. Animals are not the same as humans. They can't reflect on what they are doing and think about the alternatives. Humans can. So there is no reason for taking what they do as a sort of moral lesson for us to take. We're the ones who have to have the responsibility for making those choices," he said.

He should heed his own words. While we ARE superior to animals, we shouldn't see that as an excuse to mistreat them. It's fruitcakes like him, however, that cast a negative light on all that feel compassion towards animals.

Singer also defended his previous writings that humans and nonhumans can have "mutually satisfying" sexual relationships as long as they are consensual. When asked by CNSNews.com how an animal can consent to sexual contact with a human, he replied, "Your dog can show you when he or she wants to go for a walk and equally for nonviolent sexual contact, your dog or whatever else it is can show you whether he or she wants to engage in a certain kind of contact."

Now we can see what motivates this guy. He wants to be able to dress up his pooch and marry it, then see if he can produce some sort of hybrid, and if it doesn't come out right, he can have it killed within 28 days...

9 posted on 07/02/2002 11:12:16 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Alouette
I think democraticunderground.com is run by chimps. Does that count?
10 posted on 07/02/2002 11:14:39 AM PDT by College Repub
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"I think that a chimpanzee certainly has greater self-awareness than a newborn baby," he told CNSNews.com.

This is true. This is why intelligence, alone, is not the measure of what is or isn't a person.

11 posted on 07/02/2002 11:41:54 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: lasereye
" He defined speciesism as the belief that being a member of a certain species "makes you superior to any other being that is not a member of that species."

By this twisted rationale, every single animal that eats another for survival on this planet is a "hate-filled species-ist".

To further delve into the machinations of this lunatic's thought processes, feel free to bang yourself on the head with a hammer repeatedly.

12 posted on 07/02/2002 11:44:00 AM PDT by eric_da_grate
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To: lasereye
So what? At least the goat's blood was only used to paint the doors. We are not the ones using a headless goat carcass as a polo ball.
13 posted on 07/02/2002 11:48:04 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: lasereye
"Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?

1 Corinthians 1:20

14 posted on 07/02/2002 11:50:21 AM PDT by TexasNative2000
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To: lasereye
He explained that his mission is to challenge "this superiority of human beings," and he conceded that his ideas go very much against the grain of a country that mostly still believes in human superiority.

Professor Peter Singer should immediately resign his job at Princeton, remove all trappings of humanity, and march off into the woods to commune with Mother Nature.

I bet he'll be worm food within a week.

15 posted on 07/02/2002 11:52:41 AM PDT by Frohickey
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To: FourPeas
What a nut-case.

Absolutely correct.

This freak makes the handicapping case on human "moral judgement", as if a rabbit were somehow LESS DEAD if it was to be hunted down by a wolf, instead.

As for the "species superority" argument, I'll bet my a$$ that a wolf considers itself FAR SUPERIOR to a rabbit because he was put on this earth to hunt that bunny down....This is common sense even to a child, but at some of our nation's most esteemed academic institutions, this nonsense passes for "intellectual accumen".

16 posted on 07/02/2002 11:59:24 AM PDT by eric_da_grate
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To: FourPeas
Hold it. Hold IT! I thought humans were no better than animals. Held to a higher standard? WHY?? If we're all the same, then we're all the same. Period.

Yeah, in one question-answer, he says that Animals are not the same as humans, and can't reflect on what they are doing.

In another question-answer, he says that Animals can consent to sexual contact.

17 posted on 07/02/2002 12:04:36 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: lasereye
Yeah, so what! God gave us food.
Genesis 9:3
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

I am much more concerned about the green herb since it is not for us to irradicate but for the animals to eat too.
Genesis 1:30

And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
18 posted on 07/02/2002 12:14:36 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: ClearCase_guy
How does he know whether a spider is diabled or not and I saw a limping duck the other day,let's kill it too.
19 posted on 07/02/2002 12:20:50 PM PDT by fatima
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To: lasereye
Princeton University Professor Peter Singer,


Identity politics.
20 posted on 07/02/2002 1:28:38 PM PDT by cascademountaineer
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