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To: ko_kyi
I find following the convolutions in creationist thought very tiring.

That is possibly beacuse you spend WAY too much time, fondling the useless (so far) evolutionary parts that are dangling from your body.

You know that the great mass of 'E' folks have thrown out the 'sudden' change theory in favor of the 'slow' change one (You know - modern eyes don't just suddenly appear, but that, over time, useful adaptations in existing primitive eyes take place thereby allowing a great success rate of either: spawning; eating; fleeing from predators or snatching prey.)


So, if you 'believe' that evolution is STILL going on today, you have to realize that there are MANY, Many parts that have no useful function yet.
101 posted on 07/03/2002 12:08:22 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: Elsie
So, if you 'believe' that evolution is STILL going on today, you have to realize that there are MANY, Many parts that have no useful function yet.

Why wouldn't they have a useful function "yet"? Evolution would suggest that "useless" parts of an organism are parts that are no longer useful, not parts that will become useful after a certain number of generations.
105 posted on 07/03/2002 12:11:03 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Elsie
you have to realize that there are MANY, Many parts that have no useful function yet

Like male nipples?

106 posted on 07/03/2002 12:11:04 PM PDT by gdani
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To: Elsie
So, if you 'believe' that evolution is STILL going on today, you have to realize that there are MANY, Many parts that have no useful function yet.

Evolutionary theory is not bound in an ironclad manner to usefulness. It operates under constraints, for instance -- it might be 'useful' for mammals to have wings as well as arms (or 'legs') but the development of those wings involves a massive transition of design, and AT ALL POINTS along that transition the organism has to reap benifits that PAY FOR the transitional biology of the moment relative to competing mutations.

Evolution is not capable of "thinking" 'in the long run', but only in terms of the lifespan of the creature:

Do pre-wings (stubs) really benefit me, or would someone whos mutations gave them bigger arms or better eyes be more successful at life -- more likely to have offspring hence propogating that mutation?

That is the 'test' every variation must pass.

259 posted on 07/03/2002 3:04:35 PM PDT by mindprism.com
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To: Elsie
That is possibly beacuse you spend WAY too much time, fondling the useless (so far) evolutionary parts that are dangling from your body.

My time to fondle is my own, thanks. Physical masterbation is time no more wasted than contemplating the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. And the parts aren't useless. I have 2 great kids that I love dearly.

350 posted on 07/07/2002 4:22:00 AM PDT by ko_kyi
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