[steve-b]

I believe God created the heavens and the earth as well as all that is upon it. He even gave it the appearence of great age.

I know that there are plenty of DemocRats who worship the ground Bill Clinton walks on, but this is the first time I've ever seen it seriously suggested that God is, in fact, Bill Clinton.

[Khepera]

OK how did I suggest that? It was not my intention so it must be your mistake.

[derek]

I know that there are plenty of DemocRats who worship the ground Bill Clinton walks on, but this is the first time I've ever seen it seriously suggested that God is, in fact, Bill Clinton.



ha! that is fantastic.
I am seeing in here, though, that because there are atheists in the conservative movement, that it is a shame/pox on conservatism. Frankly, being conservative should not have anything to do with religion. I feel that I'm a conservative because I would like to see a return to traditional moral values, including the morals taught in the Bible. I think that the Bible is more a guide to life, rather than and end all be all concerning the creation of the earth.
Someone brought up a great point that why would God create so much evidence pointing otherwise to the age of the Earth? To test faith? I don't understand why a loving God would need to test the faith of his followers. The entire book of Job is dedicated to testing the faith of one man. To what ends, though? God never answers Job about why he has such a horrible existence on Earth, I thought a God that loves his children would never do such a thing. In the end, Job gets eternal bliss in Heaven, and not another time in the Bible does God test the faith of his children. It makes it seem like a singular experience, inserted into the Bible to propogate Christian dogma. A loving God would not allow his children to live in such horrid conditions..either that, or the Apocalypse is upon us, and God doesn't have the time to keep us well because he's busy fighting Satan.

I can not argue either the existence of God or truth behind Creationism, frankly because I have no evidence of it. I can not deny what science indoctrinates into me. Another writer posted that science has nothing to do with whether we live or do, we die regardless of science. Science shows that as the body ages, the systems that create red blood cells slowly begins to shut down from wear. Red blood cells are hard coded to die at a certain time, the gene that does this has been discovered, and geneticists are working on therapy to make ever lasting rbcs. The death of red blood cells is directly related to how we die. And as for life, as it is now, not Original being,... I don't need to go into a high school level of reproductive biology.

sorry steve-b this wasn't meant to go straight to you, this is a bunch of things that I read in the first 50 posts.

just my feelings on the matter.


-Derek